We recently moved into a house with a 375 gallon Sundance Cameo spa (I've never done any kind of pool maintenance before), and I'm having trouble getting the pH down. I just drained and refilled it, and took a sample to the local pool supply store to get a reading (I have the Taylor testing kit, and my results are very close to theirs). The results straight from the tap (not great):
The pool store recommended getting the TA between 80-120 first, then getting the pH between 7.2-7.8. It took 3.5 oz of Alkalinity Up/sodium bicarbonate (spread over 30 minute intervals) to get the TA up to 90.
So I moved onto pH, but I just can't keep it down. The pool store thought 2.5oz of dry acid would be enough, and I tried the Pool Math calculator, which also said 2.5oz of dry acid in a 375 gallon spa would drop the pH by 1.1 to 7.6, which sounds perfect.
I added 2.5oz of dry acid over a few 30 minute intervals, but the pH was still "above 8" (couldn't get any more granular than that since the color matching in the Taylor kit only goes up to 8.0). So I just kept adding 1 oz every ~30 minutes, and after 9oz total, the pH was down to 7.2.
Unfortunately, that much dry acid totally tanked the TA: it was down to ~10 by the time I got the pH that low. I tried adding 2oz of Alkalinity Up, and the TA went up to 40 but the pH jumped all the way back to 8.0.
Does anyone have any advice for why the pH is so resistant to dry acid, or why the estimates I find aren't working for me? I understand that the lower the TA, the more volatile the pH, so I wonder if I need to wait longer between batches of dry acid, or if I need to move onto another chemical, or something else?
I tried to summarize above, but posted my log below (which may be way too much detail for this!)
Thanks in advance!
TA | 40 |
pH | 8.7 |
FC | 0.22 |
TC | 1.58 |
CH | 80 |
CYA | 5 |
Iron | 0 |
Copper | 0.2 |
Phosphates | 0 |
TDS | 400 |
The pool store recommended getting the TA between 80-120 first, then getting the pH between 7.2-7.8. It took 3.5 oz of Alkalinity Up/sodium bicarbonate (spread over 30 minute intervals) to get the TA up to 90.
So I moved onto pH, but I just can't keep it down. The pool store thought 2.5oz of dry acid would be enough, and I tried the Pool Math calculator, which also said 2.5oz of dry acid in a 375 gallon spa would drop the pH by 1.1 to 7.6, which sounds perfect.
I added 2.5oz of dry acid over a few 30 minute intervals, but the pH was still "above 8" (couldn't get any more granular than that since the color matching in the Taylor kit only goes up to 8.0). So I just kept adding 1 oz every ~30 minutes, and after 9oz total, the pH was down to 7.2.
Unfortunately, that much dry acid totally tanked the TA: it was down to ~10 by the time I got the pH that low. I tried adding 2oz of Alkalinity Up, and the TA went up to 40 but the pH jumped all the way back to 8.0.
Does anyone have any advice for why the pH is so resistant to dry acid, or why the estimates I find aren't working for me? I understand that the lower the TA, the more volatile the pH, so I wonder if I need to wait longer between batches of dry acid, or if I need to move onto another chemical, or something else?
I tried to summarize above, but posted my log below (which may be way too much detail for this!)
Thanks in advance!
Date | TA | pH | Action |
Day 1 7pm (#s from pool store) | 40 | 8.7 | 3.5oz alk up @3 30 minute intervals |
Day 2 7am | 90 | > 8 | 0.75oz dry acid |
Day 2 7:30am | 90 | > 8 | 1oz dry acid |
Day 2 8am | 80 | > 8 | 1oz dry acid |
Day 2 9:15am | 70 | > 8 | 1oz dry acid |
Day 2 9:50am | 60 | > 8 | 1oz dry acid |
Day 2 10:50am | 50 | > 8 | 1oz dry acid |
Day 2 11:30am | 40 | 8 | 1oz dry acid |
Day 2 3pm | 30 | 8 | 1oz dry acid |
Day 2 3:45pm | 20 | 7.8 | 1oz dry acid |
Day 2 5:15pm | 10 | 7.2 | 1oz dry acid |
Day 2 6pm | 40 | 8 |