Bid for new pool in Sacramento, CA area, is this good?

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redturboeclipse

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Jun 14, 2021
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Sacramento, CA
Pool Size
9500
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Hayward Aqua Rite (T-15)
Hi all,

We are looking to build our first pool. We will be first time pool owners. I'm not sure how things are across the USA, but currently in a lot of areas in California, the pool business has been really in demand and prices have gone up significantly. This is a quote from a pool builder and would like your thoughts if its good.

I'm still reading up on the SWG and the pool interior finish. I'm sure if I "downgrade" those I can get the bid down under in the low-mid 40s. I do care a lot about the least amount of maintenance and being "trouble free" as possible. That said, the pebble finish may stay, as from reading, it has higher chance of lasting 20 to life compared to plain ol plaster. I know SWG makes maintaining and keeping the pool in check easier, but I'm still skeptical of long term of what the salt will do around the pool. We aren't planning to sell this house so that matters.

I'm satisfied with the quote, but wanted to hear other's opinion if this is a "good deal". And I may swap out the SWG for a variable speed Heat Pump instead.

• 25’ x 15’
• 375 Square Feet
• 80 Perimeter Feet
• 500 SF of broom finish concrete
• 5’ x 15’ Cabo Shelf
• 3 ½’ to 6’ Depth
• 9000 Gallons
• 25’ of +18 Raised wall with (2) 3’ Sheer Descents and stacked stone (8 per sf material allowance)
• 6”x6” Tile for waterline. ( $6 per SF material allowance)
• 1 Skimmer
• 1 autofill and autodrain
• Split main drain suction
• Concrete cantilever cap around top of pool
• Salt
• Hayward variable speed pump
• Hayward Clean and Clear Cartridge Filter
• Hayward Omni PL Automation with Wireless controls for phone, Ipad or computer
• 3 Colorlogic 320 LED pool lights 12V
• Lifetime warranty on shell
• 3 year warranty on plaster/ 7 year warranty on Stonescapes Pebble Finish
• 5 year warranty on the pool equipment
• Includes plans, engineering and permit cost

$47,125 with Stonescapes mini pebble.
 
Looks like a great price. If you do some research here, you'll find that SWGs do not damage pools or equipment. Unless you're prepared to add liquid chlorine each day, you'll want a salt water pool.

Good luck with the build.
 
Howdy fellow Sacramentan... welcome to the forum :wave:

That looks like an awesome price to me. And YES you want an SWG. They fit the climate here perfect. The salinity is just not high enough to cause "salt damage". it's half the salinity of your tears. And if you want the easiest maintenance that is the way to go. Also if you are getting a Hayward controller and automation, then you'll be getting the Hayward SWG as well, it all integrates. Are you planning on doing the maintenance yourself or are you going to hire a pool service? Everyone on the site prefers to do themselves and we can assist you with that.

Good luck!
 
mguzzy said:
Howdy fellow Sacramentan... welcome to the forum :wave:

That looks like an awesome price to me. And YES you want an SWG. They fit the climate here perfect. The salinity is just not high enough to cause "salt damage". it's half the salinity of your tears. And if you want the easiest maintenance that is the way to go. Also if you are getting a Hayward controller and automation, then you'll be getting the Hayward SWG as well, it all integrates. Are you planning on doing the maintenance yourself or are you going to hire a pool service? Everyone on the site prefers to do themselves and we can assist you with that.

Good luck!
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Thank you. As a fellow Sacramentan, should I invest in a pool heater? I will skip a gas heater as the costs to use it seems out of the question for us. That leaves for a heat pump or solar heater. I believe the heat pump requires a 220 electric so if I dont get it now I should at least have it stubbed for one already. I do plan to maintain myself.

As I read more on SWG, it does seem to be the route for easier maintenance. That along with a robot. I'm thinking the one that plugs in to an electric outlet and not suction side robot. Do all pool installs always come with extra outlets so I can plug in such things or is that extra?
 
redturboeclipse said:
Thank you. As a fellow Sacramentan, should I invest in a pool heater? I will skip a gas heater as the costs to use it seems out of the question for us. That leaves for a heat pump or solar heater. I believe the heat pump requires a 220 electric so if I dont get it now I should at least have it stubbed for one already. I do plan to maintain myself.

As I read more on SWG, it does seem to be the route for easier maintenance. That along with a robot. I'm thinking the one that plugs in to an electric outlet and not suction side robot. Do all pool installs always come with extra outlets so I can plug in such things or is that extra?
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I have a heater that I use for heating the attached spa... a nice benie is that it will also heat the pool! It's made for some fun March birthday pool parties.. I found it was cheaper to heat the pool than to rent a bounce house!.. but I digress. A gas heater is more efficient and faster if you want to heat it, a heat pump is slower. A lot of people without a spa will opt for solar. Depending on how many panels, and how much sun your property gets you can extend your pool season buy a few weeks on either end. It also depends on your layout. My pool is surrounded by big trees so its in the shade ALL DAY.. and it never really heats up like the neighbors pool that is only 100 ft away and is in direct sun ALL DAY. their pool will get into the 90's easily, mine struggles to get into the 70's. If I cover it at night it holds the heat better.

I consider a SWG a mandatory gizmo.. it was the best investment I ever made to my property IMHO! And get a robot for your cleaner. That is the future. They are cheaper to operate, clean better, and are cheaper to install. Just the basic ones are better than the ones with all the bells and whistles. In fact you can probably get a better deal on it if you order it separately. AND your PB can leave out all the plumbing and pumps for pool sweep. Search for Marina Pools on the forum. May users have ordered from there. They are straight shooters and the prices are competitive. You will probably want an outlet near your pool anyway just for stuff! you know for fairy lights, and the blender for the poolside wet bar ;)
 
Passive solar is the way to go in your neck of the woods. My in-laws live in Elk Grove and have to turn off the solar heating during the summer as the pool water would get too warm otherwise. Works great in the Fall and Spring, mixed in the winter as it gets a little foggy down there.

Heat pumps work fine, too, although SMUD electric rates can be a killer!
 
Well as your neighbor. Solar is the way to go. I likes me a warm pool and very rarely fire up the gas heater except when we use the spa. Pool is a cool 93 right now but as soon as the big yellow ball starts to go down it will b awesome.
 

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