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    Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Please give some direction. I am not satisfied with pristine blue product, 28k gallons, 33 round, liner, 2 hp, cartridge filter.

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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Hi, Michelle,

    Welcome to the forum. Start by reading up in Pool School and recognize the need for a test kit where you can post all these test results.....

    pH
    FC
    CC
    CH
    CYA

    Armed with those test results, we can get you started. Also tell us how your water looks when you get those posted up.
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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Welcome to TFP.

    If you search the site for Pristine Blue using the Google search in the bottom left corner you'll find lots of posts about it. It's not a sanitizer at all and adds copper to your pool.

    How long have you been using Pristine Blue?
    Are you using any chlorine in the pool at this time?
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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Using pristine blue for 11 months, new pool
    No, chlorine used in pool yet.
    Do have a background with chlorine from keeping parents pool up.

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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    some Pristine blue products do contain chlorine, hows that for a non chlorine system!

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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Ok, ordered TF100. On the way. Will get a copper test tomorrow, while I wait on kit.
    Entered wrong gallonage actual 28k. Is there anything I can do while I wait? I been reading site for days and can't wait to get started on this project!

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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Taking a sample to the pool store is the best thing you can do at this point. Just wait on the kit.
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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Copper is at .7.....had just added for this two week cycle.

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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Hi, Michelle,

    EDIT: A really good idea would be to get another copper test at another store first....is that an option?

    By far, the best solution is to drain and refill in several steps. Is that an option for you?

    That is a TON of copper in your pool and it is not really removable. Unless you can drain and refill over half of your pool, you can probably manage it by keeping your pH somewhere around 7.1 - 7.4 AT ALL TIMES. Never let it get higher than that as you might risk some copper staining. I think you may have to introduce you chlorine in a diluted and very slow fashion to prevent a temporary local spike in pH which I suppose could precipitate some of that copper as well.
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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    The copper test I used was from the pristine kit that I have, it is a test that I do every two weeks, if level acts as usual it will be dropping within next five days. I tried to get test done at local store today, they did not have copper test....going into city tomorrow will take sample to pinch a penny, for a doubl check. I am not surprised at level, it is normal within the pb program.Don't think I can put that much water on ground (large crop of peanuts within 30ft of pool)....

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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    if level acts as usual it will be dropping within next five days.
    That's very strange. Metals don't come out of pool water unless they precipitate out (stain)
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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    So now I am wondering if that really is a copper test kit that came with my pb set up. It is what was provided at the purchase of the pool. I add pb on a two week cycle by this reading...and it is called a copper test. It will be.1-.3 by the time I get to the next cycle. So I think that I will take to other pool store ( not pb location)and get a reading. Will post as soon as confirm either way.

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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Kit not here yet, went to walmart got kit...here are results
    Total hardness 250
    Total chlorine 0
    Free chlorine 2
    PH 8.4
    Total alkalinity 120
    Stabilizer 100

    Still running filter, getting algae out. Can I do anything with these numbers

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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle W
    Kit not here yet, went to walmart got kit...here are results
    Total hardness 250
    Total chlorine 0
    Free chlorine 2
    PH 8.4
    Total alkalinity 120
    Stabilizer 100

    Still running filter, getting algae out. Can I do anything with these numbers
    stabilizer and pH are too high
    assuming your results are accurate a first step would be to drain your pool by half to reduce your stabilizer. Adding fresh water will probably reduce your pH a bit. Once you get your stabilizer down to at least 50 (30 is better for shocking because shock levels are lower) you can add acid to get your pH down to the 7.4 range and add chlorine and keep it at shock levels until you arent losing any more chlorine overnight, CC <.5 pool is clear

    not sure how your total chlorine can be 0 and fc be 2
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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    ok, went to Pool Store this morning and had a water test done.
    Total Hardness - 230
    total Cholrine - 0
    free Cholrine - 0
    pH - 8.0
    Total Alkalinity 95
    Stabilizer 0
    Copper .3

    I did purchase the Metal Control Product just in case you thought i might need it. I am 30 miles from the pool store and can always return it on the next trip into the city. I feel comfortable with these numbers, told analysist I was converting from PB to Cholrine.

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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Those numbers look fairly good. If that copper reading is correct you are just below the copper level where staining is a problem with a vinyl liner (vinyl stains less easily than other surfaces).

    You do need to continue lowering your PH, and then it is time to start adding some chlorine and stabilizer/CYA.
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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Sunday, cloudy skies

    Total hardness 350
    Total chlorine 5
    Free chlorine 7.5
    PH 7.8
    Total alkalinity 120
    Stab/cya 20

    Going to calculator, see a couple of problems with numbers. Pool is cloudy, but MUCH better.

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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Chlorine 0
    Ph 7.2
    Fc 0
    Cc 0
    TA 90
    CH 330
    CYA 30
    Am I going in the right direction?

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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    Quote Originally Posted by Michelle W
    Chlorine 0
    Ph 7.2
    Fc 0
    Cc 0
    TA 90
    CH 330
    CYA 30
    Am I going in the right direction?
    you need to keep your chlorine level at shock levels until you lose less than 1ppm overnight
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    Re: Converting from pristine blue to BBB

    so is that the only thing I need to be worried about at this point, keeping chlorine at schock level until lest comes back at less than 1 ppm?

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