I would rather it just dribble down my leg before I would walk into a Leslie's to just use their bathroom
I am not surprised - created a pretty good model for this & every other manufacturer has caught on.I tell ya, these robot manufacturers have perfected their business model - sell a luxury product at high markup with a short usable life, cover your shame with a basic/limited warranty, and then watch the customer’s money roll in every 3-5 years …
I am not surprised - created a pretty good model for this & every other manufacturer has caught on.
People line up down the street hoping they’ll be one of the “lucky” ones to shell out $1k+ on release day for their gadget.
Will TFP take a stance to steer folks away from robots, similar to how we shun ozone and uv gear? Should we?
Will TFP take a stance to steer folks away from robots, similar to how we shun ozone and uv gear? Should we?
Robots = expensive and failure prone (but work well when they do), vs UV/Ozone = not needed/effective (doesn't really work for residential applications). Apples vs oranges. Is that what you meant by false equivalence?False equivalence.
I explain why I wouldn't want a robot, but never come right out and recommend someone not get one. I guess I'll stick with that.
Apples vs oranges. Is that what you meant by false equivalence?
I continue to recommend that new builds put in the plumbing for a pressure cleaner. I still think it is long term the most cost effective and does a decent job cleaning if it is properly cared for.
Recommendation should be to install both pressure and suction cleaner lines and then they have maximum flexibility for cleaners over the life of the pool as the cleaner market changes. As you say .... PVC is cheap.
I was just about to write something similar. You don't really need two vac lines. One suction line will do, at least 1.5", and have it brought up at the pad where it could be easily replumbed between suction and pressure. I would go a step further and insist on sweep elbows, too. Then it can be a suction vac line, a pressure vac line, or a return line.The only caveat I would add to a pressure line install is that the buried PVC from the pad to the pool be standard 1-1/2” SCH40 pipe as opposed to the 3/4” flex that is often used. That way, if the pool owner ever wanted to get away from a pressure cleaner, the line could be repurposed as an additional return. Burying 3/4” flex isn’t ideal.
The only caveat I would add to a pressure line install is that the buried PVC from the pad to the pool be standard 1-1/2” SCH40 pipe as opposed to the 3/4” flex that is often used. That way, if the pool owner ever wanted to get away from a pressure cleaner, the line could be repurposed as an additional return. Burying 3/4” flex isn’t ideal.