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There's an o-ring seal, so you don't need thread tape, even thought he adapter kit comes with it.  One note though, if you screw it down too tight, the o-ring will bulge out. If this happens, unscrew until the o-ring goes back, then re-tighten to a point before the o-ring starts bulging out.
There's an o-ring seal, so you don't need thread tape, even thought the adapter kit comes with it.  One note though, if you screw it down too tight, the o-ring will bulge out. If this happens, unscrew until the o-ring goes back, then re-tighten to a point before the o-ring starts bulging out.

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Skimmer install! [1]You see people doing this upgrade on Intex pools, but at most you get one or two pictures. I give you...32 pictures of the process. I did not drain the pool during this install, and everything went smoothly.

You will need:

  • Skimmer
    • I used the Hayward SP1091LX, ordered off Amazon. Other people use the widemouth Hayward, which should work just fine with these instructions.
  • Intex to standard adapter.
    • While I used the one linked above, other people have fit together PVC pieces from Home Depot or similar, but this lets you convert from the skimmer straight to Intex tubing (if you don't have hard PVC plumbing yet)
  • A longer Intex style hose may be needed, depending on your pool's specific hose setup. I had ordered a two pack of 59" Intex hoses previously, and that came in handy.
  • Scissors
  • Razor blade
  • Phillips #3 screwdriver. Seriously, pick up a #3 if you only have a #2 laying around. #2 can be pressed to work on #3 screws, but it's far from ideal and you will often end up stripping out screws. Get a #3 screwdriver. $5 or less at your local hardware/home improvement store.
  • Awl or other sharp pokey device.
  • Goggles may be useful. I personally used a mask and snorkle, and found that quite helpful. This is not needed if you drain the pool.

Let's get started. First off, the gasket is a "butterfly" gasket, designed to fit on both sides of a steel pool wall. Since we don't have a steel wall, we need to cut the gasket. I used a scissors, cutting on one edge so the middle portion didn't "stick out" of the gasket after I cut. IMG 6596.JPG

When finished, you have two gasket halves, one of which has a ridge of stuff "sticking out". IMG 6597.JPG

I used the scissors again to trim this off. IMG 6598.JPG

Which left me with two flat gasket pieces. IMG 6599.JPG

Sort out the screws. The round head ones you don't need. I tried to use them, and while someone helpful, can also not be very helpful, and caused me to do more work. I'd skip them. You need all the countersunk screws though (ones on the left). And a #3 screwdriver, not the standard #2! IMG 6600.JPG

Put the parts somewhere easy to grab. I stuck the screws in the skimmer basket. IMG 6602.JPG

You want the skimmer fairly high, so the pool can be filled up as full as possible without going over the top of the skimmer, but you don't want to stress the liner. This means you want the skimmer to be as high on the outside as possible, without having it hit the portion of the liner that starts angling diagonally away to go over the upper bars. IMG 6603.JPG

It's somewhat hard to see, but that means you'll want the inner gasket right about here, with the top edge slightly below the top of the melted seam line on the liner. IMG 6604.JPG

Now, I had an awl, and intended to use it to punch a hole through the liner, then put the screw in. Problem was, the top row of screws is on the welded seam, so it's twice as thick and I could not really punch through with the awl. A different awl, with a more tapered point, probably would have worked...but I broke out the drill. DO NOT USE A CORDED DRILL IF YOU DECIDE TO USE A DRILL. BATTERY OPERATED DRILL ONLY!!! IMG 6606.JPG

The idea here is get the gasket and inner frame lined up where they should be, punch (or drill) through the liner on one of the top corner holes, then stick a screw through the hole. One through, put the outside gasket over the screw, then screw the screw into the skimmer. Do not tighten down fully. Repeat with the top screw on the other corner. At this point you should have the skimmer supported by the top two screws. IMG 6610.JPG

I then put the middle top screw in. IMG 6613.JPG

I proceeded downwards on both sides, making sure the gasket was lined up before putting the screws in. At this point I started gently snugging the screws down, as the faceplate, at least for me, was sticking out from the pool further down, so I wanted to pull things together slowly rather than try to put a screw in the bottom when the faceplate was more than 1/4" off the liner.

On the other hand, you don't want to fully tighten the screws until they are all in, so you can tighten them crosswise. So I tightened the screws until the gasket faceplate just started to touch, then proceeded to the next screw. IMG 6614.JPG

I proceeded one screw down, then the opposing screw at the same height, until I was at the bottom middle. Here's my process. After the top screws in the double liner section, I was easily able to punch a hole through the liner with my awl. IMG 6615.JPG

Then I'd stick a screw in and tighten it down till the faceplate/gasket was just touching. My mask and snorkle where handy at this point to watch things underwater, as there is a better view that way vs looking at it from above the water. IMG 6616.JPG

Once all the screws were in, I tightened them down crosswise. I did something like top left, bottom right, top right, bottom left, right top, left bottom, left top, right bottom, top middle, bottom middle. Then went around a second time to make sure all where tight. At this point it looks like this. IMG 6618.JPG

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Now to connect it up. You need to do the plumbing before cutting the liner. At some point I want to do some hard PVC, but at this point the Intex lines are fine with me. One thing at a time...

The 40 mm to 1 1/2" adapter I linked above works fine for this. The Hayward skimmer has inside and outside threads. The adapter screws into the inside ones. IMG 6623.JPG

There's an o-ring seal, so you don't need thread tape, even thought the adapter kit comes with it. One note though, if you screw it down too tight, the o-ring will bulge out. If this happens, unscrew until the o-ring goes back, then re-tighten to a point before the o-ring starts bulging out. IMG 6624.JPG

The 59" Intex hose I got previously worked fine, but unlike the gaskets the Intex hoses use to connect to the pump that fit nicely inside a hole, these hoses came with flat gaskets. With no centering portion, it was a bit annoying to get it to seal up, but after a few tries I got it. It seemed to help to put the gasket in, then before attaching the hose, slide up the gray threaded ring as far as it would go, then make the connection while holding the threaded ring up. IMG 6625.JPG

At this point it now looked like this. The original dual inlet was disconnected from the pump, and my 59" hose went from the skimmer to the pump. IMG 6627.JPG

At this point I got myself a container, a towel, and a beer. IMG 6626.JPG

I used the container to fill the skimmer up to the top with water to check for leaks. IMG 6628.JPG

I used the towel to dry off the outside of the skimmer, the pool, and the hose. IMG 6629.JPG

With everything dry, I let it sit for about 5 minutes to check for leaks. This is important to do before you cut the liner!

Turns out I had a leak at the Intex hose at the bottom of the adapter. I disconnected, re-centered things and got it re-connected. Re-filled with water, then dried everything off again and waited another 5 minutes or so. Nothing leaked this time. IMG 6630.JPG

Now that it was verified to be leak-free, it was cutting time. I took the razor blade and carefully cut out the liner inside the skimmer opening. I rounded the corners a bit...engineer me doesn't like square corners, but it's probably fine in this case...

Mask and snorkel came in handy again here, though again not strictly needed. IMG 6633.JPG

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Added the weir door. IMG 6635.JPG

Added the skimmer basket. IMG 6636.JPG

And it was go time. I opened the valves and turned on the pump! IMG 6637.JPG

The only thing left to do was put the skimmer lid on, and we were done. IMG 6638.JPG

At this point I got my Intex auto cleaner running again (because of the leaves seen in an earlier picture), poured myself another homebrew... IMG 20200726 160801657.jpg

...and there we have it! One skimmer install, on an Intex pool, with no draining. IMG 20200726 161800245 HDR.jpg

Couple extra thoughts: Some things may be different, if you already have hard plumbing, or use a non-Hayward skimmer. Adjust appropriately.

Note that I have gone from the Intex dual inlets to a single inlet on the skimmer. This probably isn't the best. The dual returns are due to the Virginia Graeme Baker Pool and Spa Safety Act, which requires that pool drains be "unblockable". With one inlet, if the inlet is covered up completely there will be a tremendous amount of suction force, and people, especially children, can and have died by becoming stuck underwater on inlets. In the unfortunate case of Virginia Graeme Baker, a 7 year old girl who the law was named after, she became stuck on a hot tub inlet. Her mother was unable to pull her off. Two men eventually were able to pull her off the inlet, but the suction force was so great the inlet broke in the process, and it was too late for the girl. :(

I say this to point out the risk involved in modifying plumbing to go from multiple to single inlets. With two inlets spaced appropriately apart, the suction force never becomes as extreme, as water can flow through the second, unblocked, inlet, and people are unlikely to become stuck underwater. I plan on adding a second skimmer at another location in the pool. Either that, or I'll reconnect one of the original inlets so I have one through-wall inlet and one skimmer. But right now I don't have the plumbing to do this, so for the moment this is how it is, and I will use appropriate caution (if we had kids, I wouldn't have left it for any length of time like this).

All that said, a skimmer is not the same as a regular wall inlet or floor drain, as there is a hole in the lid. Even if the opening is blocked completely, the pump can pull air in through the hole in the lid, keeping the opening from pulling a truly terrifying amount of suction. Still through...

Finally, while everything went smoothly for me, as always there is some amount of risk with this procedure. I take no responsibility for any actions taken as a result of this post. It's likely easier, and perhaps a bit safer, to drain the pool at least to a point below the bottom of the proposed skimmer.

In any case, I hope this is useful for some people. As I said, I've seen a lot of people add these, but never a lot of pictures of the process or details, so I hope this makes the process easier for people in the future!