Difference between revisions of "Pentair Superflo VS Pumps" - Further Reading

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The SuperFlo VS pumps manufactured before 11/20/2020 can connect to automation systems using an external low voltage control and a relay for each speed.
 
The SuperFlo VS pumps manufactured before 11/20/2020 can connect to automation systems using an external low voltage control and a relay for each speed.
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The Pentair IntelliSynch will provide wireless app control for all SuperFlo VS pumps through the RS-485 inputs or external low voltage inputs.
  
 
The SuperFlo VS will not connect by RS-485 with a Pentair IntelliConnect system.
 
The SuperFlo VS will not connect by RS-485 with a Pentair IntelliConnect system.

Revision as of 01:53, 7 May 2022

Pentair SuperFlo VS Pumps

The SuperFlo VS pump product line are variable speed 1.5 pumps rated at WEF 9.0 THP 2.2 that can run on 120 volts or 240 volts. These VS pumps are a direct replacement for Pentair SuperFlow pumps and the Hayward Super Pump.

In the SuperFlo VS product line there is the SuperFlo VS pump manufactured before 11/20/2020 which does not have RS-485 communication ability and the SuperFlo VST, SuperFlo VS, and Sta-Rite Supermax pumps manufactured after 11/20/2020 that have RS-485 communication ability.

Pentair Automation Compatibility

The SuperFlo VS and Supermax VS pumps manufactured after 11/20/2020 with RS-485 communication can digitally communicate with IntelliCenter, IntelliSync, EasyToucn, and IntelliTouch systems.

The SuperFlo VS pumps manufactured before 11/20/2020 can connect to automation systems using an external low voltage control and a relay for each speed.

The Pentair IntelliSynch will provide wireless app control for all SuperFlo VS pumps through the RS-485 inputs or external low voltage inputs.

The SuperFlo VS will not connect by RS-485 with a Pentair IntelliConnect system.

SuperFlo VS Communications Cable

The SuperFlo VS pump has an 8 pin proprietary connector on the side for the communication cable. It is different then the 7 pin connection used in the IntelliFlo pumps and eh cables are not interchangeable.[1]

The pre 11/20/2020 SuperFlo VS without RS-485 uses Pentair Wiring Kit 353129Z with wires in six of the eight pins.

The pumps with RS-485 ability use Wiring Kit 356324Z with wires connecting all eight pins.

Pentair SuperFlo VS Cable Wires.png

If you get the 356424Z SuperFlo VS to Automation Cable package it will contain the following labels:

Pentair SuperFlo VS Comm Cable Package.png

The SuperFlo VS automation cables have not been widely available and some members have figured out how to build them. A M12 (12mm) "aviation plug" was tried and was too small. What did fit with some dremerling is a "GX16" - 16mm "aviation plug".

The pinout of the 353129Z cable for the pre 11/20/2020 SuperFlo VS pump From the notched edge going clockwise is:

  • Center - Black
  • 1- red
  • 2- empty
  • 3- empty
  • 4- green
  • 5- yellow
  • 6- orange
  • 7- brown

The cable connector looks like:

Pentair SuperFlo VS Comm Cable.jpg

Another member couldn't find a compatible connector off the shelf but after looking at the back of the existing connector to check, it's just terminated from the loose wires coming out of the controller module anyway. So he bought a standard GX16 connector kit and just cut off the proprietary/mystery Pentair port and reterminate the wires onto the GX16 port (which fits the same hole in the cover). He felt his time soldering this together may not have been worth the ~$40-50ish for the Pentair solution if it was available but it's certainly worth $200 for a simple cable.