Hi, we’re about two months into a new build and I’ve been reading all I can on this forum. The startup guy has since left and he set my pump to run at 2550rpm 24/7. I’d like to get it down to something lower and have tried to set it to run at 1600rpm on a 1:01pm to 1:00pm schedule, but no matter what I do, it always defaults back to 2550 at some point. It did it twice this afternoon between 3-4pm. If I turn on the bubbler and/or sheers, then turn them off, it goes back to 2550. I’m unsure of how to figure this out. I definitely have a 2.7hp VSP ePump out there, so should it be showing up on this screen? When I asked him how to set this to run at 1600 all the time, he said “not much really works when it’s that low”. And then wanted my login info so he could see how things were set, but I’m more interested in understanding and learning how to change this. Thanks in advance!
Trying to figure out my Jandy VSP pump
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MSchutzer
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Is your Jandy VSP pump even hooked up to your Aqualink system? There should be a 4 wire connection between the VSP pump and one of the red 4 pin RS485 terminal connectors along the top of the Aqualink main board. You will have to remove front plate on the Aqualink box to see those connectors.
The reason that I ask is that your Aqualink system is not configured to talk to a VSP pump. If it was set up that screen should look like this:
And then you would have the speed table set up for the various functions and the base filter pump speed would be your slow speed of 1600 rpm, which is fine for basic filtering. If you have a SWG you may have to adjust the slowest speed such that it moves enough water to enable the SWG to work, but you don’t need to go any faster than that. Here’s what a speed table looks like:
But right now it looks like your VSP pump is likely controlled via the pumps panel interface.
First step is to verify the 4 wire RS485 cable connection between the pump and the Aqualink panel, and then we can get your Automation properly configured.
The reason that I ask is that your Aqualink system is not configured to talk to a VSP pump. If it was set up that screen should look like this:
And then you would have the speed table set up for the various functions and the base filter pump speed would be your slow speed of 1600 rpm, which is fine for basic filtering. If you have a SWG you may have to adjust the slowest speed such that it moves enough water to enable the SWG to work, but you don’t need to go any faster than that. Here’s what a speed table looks like:
But right now it looks like your VSP pump is likely controlled via the pumps panel interface.
First step is to verify the 4 wire RS485 cable connection between the pump and the Aqualink panel, and then we can get your Automation properly configured.
And the aqualink panel itself emits a loud buzz constantly, not sure if that is normal or not.
MSchutzer
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Well okay, that’s good. That screen capture that you attached in your first post doesn’t have the pump set up right. Try going into the VSP setup page in the web menu and changing line 1 from “not installed” to “filtration” and that should associate the pump with the filter/pump function, and by extension the pool speed.
It’s strange that you actually see the speed settings available in the app itself, they don’t show up in my app screen, they only show up in the web interface for me, under the VSP speed items.
Change that first Epump to filtration and see if that makes it recognize the Pool speed for the filter / pump feature.
It’s strange that you actually see the speed settings available in the app itself, they don’t show up in my app screen, they only show up in the web interface for me, under the VSP speed items.
Change that first Epump to filtration and see if that makes it recognize the Pool speed for the filter / pump feature.
MSchutzer
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You may have to check the pumps interface panel to see what address it is set to. In a normal setup the pump is set to address 1 which corresponds to Pump1 in the Aqualink system. Since the pump shows offline it seems to be set to some other address. I'm not sure where the name pump 1863 is coming from, the pump is obviously talking to the Aqualink system, its just not on the normal address used by the VSP setup pages.
Use the pumps interface and see what it's address is set to, try to set it to address 1.
Use the pumps interface and see what it's address is set to, try to set it to address 1.
MSchutzer
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Can you also attach a screenshot of your VSP pump speed setup page(s) from the web interface? I want to see if I can figure out where pump 1863 is coming from, and which speed table it's actually using.
MSchutzer
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Okay, I've never seen one of those newer serial assigned pumps before. Learn something new every day!
In any event it looks like it shows up as pump 5 in the web interface, and in the app you have pump 5 assigned to filtration so that should be fine.
You will want to change pump 1 back to not installed.
Your speed table for pump 5 looks like it is set up correctly with the pool (speed 1) set up for the slowest speed and the rest of the stuff in the speed table looks okay.
What does you schedule page show? Are you scheduling the filter/pump function any time the pump is running?
In any event it looks like it shows up as pump 5 in the web interface, and in the app you have pump 5 assigned to filtration so that should be fine.
You will want to change pump 1 back to not installed.
Your speed table for pump 5 looks like it is set up correctly with the pool (speed 1) set up for the slowest speed and the rest of the stuff in the speed table looks okay.
What does you schedule page show? Are you scheduling the filter/pump function any time the pump is running?
MSchutzer
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I'm curious, are those iAqualink app screens that you are showing in your last message? I only ask because my version of the iAqualink app looks different and I don't have any access via the app to access the VSP configuration pages, I have to do all that in the web interface.
Is that the iOS version of the app, or the android version?
edit: I found information about the serial assigned pump addresses in the latest Jandy E-pump manual. It turns out that the latest firmware versions of the Aqualink RS (version W or later, introduced mid 2022) support up to 16 pump addresses and read the addresses from the pump. Firmware versions prior to version W only support four pumps and use the DIP switch settings on the pump. You have later firmware than the T.2 version that I have, so that is likely why you see different screens on your iAqualink App screens.
Is that the iOS version of the app, or the android version?
edit: I found information about the serial assigned pump addresses in the latest Jandy E-pump manual. It turns out that the latest firmware versions of the Aqualink RS (version W or later, introduced mid 2022) support up to 16 pump addresses and read the addresses from the pump. Firmware versions prior to version W only support four pumps and use the DIP switch settings on the pump. You have later firmware than the T.2 version that I have, so that is likely why you see different screens on your iAqualink App screens.
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black117
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You had mentioned that your pool guys said 1600 rpm doesn't do much.
For me, what I did was, I set a goal of how often I wanted to turn over my pool in a 24hr period. Next, I installed a flowmeter at the return line and started calculating what flow rate I would need to turn over my pool an adequate number of times within the time period that I wanted my pump to run. I then adjusted the RPMs of my VSP to meet the flow rate that met my goals. Investing ~ $100 into the flow meter was a worthwhile investment. There are many turnover calculators on the interwebs that you can use.
For me, what I did was, I set a goal of how often I wanted to turn over my pool in a 24hr period. Next, I installed a flowmeter at the return line and started calculating what flow rate I would need to turn over my pool an adequate number of times within the time period that I wanted my pump to run. I then adjusted the RPMs of my VSP to meet the flow rate that met my goals. Investing ~ $100 into the flow meter was a worthwhile investment. There are many turnover calculators on the interwebs that you can use.
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I believe the schedule I have set is to run ‘Pump 1863’ on the pool speed from 1:01pm to 1:00pm. However, seems that once it starts back up every day at 1:01, it returns to 2550rpm. If I turn on the bubbler through the app, which is set to 1940rpm, then eventually when I turn it off, it reverts back to 2550rpm, and not 1600rpm. I have no idea where this rogue speed is coming from. Schedule shows both ‘Filter Pump’ and ‘Pump 1863’ as options. It was set to ‘Filter Pump’ before which doesn’t allow me to set a speed via that schedule.
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MSchutzer
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Okay, I think that is your problem. Filter/pump is the function to use to turn the pump on. It will auto associate with the Pool speed in the speed table.
Pump 1863: pool is a VSP speed setting, and shouldn’t be used to set the basic on/off function.
So schedule filter/pump for the whole time you want the pump on.
You then should be able to schedule the bubbler as a subset of the time and it will turn on and off at the scheduled times, and then the pump will return to the pool speed.
Anything that says pump 1863:name is not a function, but a VSP speed setting. So pump 1863:spa is the spa pump speed, not the Spa function. Spa function will switch your valves and also set the pump to the pump 1863:spa speed.
Try using filter/pump instead of the VSP speed setting in your schedule. Without the filter/pump function scheduled for the whole time the pump is on things can get weird when other functions are turned on.
And I would also consider changing the filter/pump run time so that it is all in one day. Such as start at 12:01am and stop at 11:59pm. It can do strange things when you wrap the schedule around the date change at midnight.
Pump 1863: pool is a VSP speed setting, and shouldn’t be used to set the basic on/off function.
So schedule filter/pump for the whole time you want the pump on.
You then should be able to schedule the bubbler as a subset of the time and it will turn on and off at the scheduled times, and then the pump will return to the pool speed.
Anything that says pump 1863:name is not a function, but a VSP speed setting. So pump 1863:spa is the spa pump speed, not the Spa function. Spa function will switch your valves and also set the pump to the pump 1863:spa speed.
Try using filter/pump instead of the VSP speed setting in your schedule. Without the filter/pump function scheduled for the whole time the pump is on things can get weird when other functions are turned on.
And I would also consider changing the filter/pump run time so that it is all in one day. Such as start at 12:01am and stop at 11:59pm. It can do strange things when you wrap the schedule around the date change at midnight.
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Looks like we have a winner! The start up guys default schedule is 1:01pm-1:00pm at 2550 rpm. I had no idea that wrapping it around a date change would cause issues.
MSchutzer
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Great!
Yeah, the Jandy firmware / software doesn’t deal well when you have anything scheduled to be running across the midnight date change.
Yeah, the Jandy firmware / software doesn’t deal well when you have anything scheduled to be running across the midnight date change.
Hello. I'm having the same exact problem you had in this thread. My pump was pump 5, so it was not showing up in the web interface. I used the app to change the pump speeds, chose pump 5 in the scheduler, and set my times. The speeds would work and then randomly change back to their old, default setting. It looks like your solution was to set the new schedule using pump/filter instead of pump 1863. That worked? How did you change the speed settings for pump/filter? Thanks for any guidance!