post-inspection remediation, cover for timers to prevent electric shock?

[quietdesperation]

Hi,

the buyers of our house hired a pool inspection company and the only issue they asked us to remediate was contracting with an electrician to add missing covers to our pool timers. I'd like to order the parts myself, I'm not exactly sure what is missing, anyone have a sense of it? Photos and comments below:

"Wiring was exposed inside of both timer units because the cover inside the box was missing. This is a safety hazard for shock. A qualified person should repair as necessary. For example, by installing a new cove

"The missing cover on both timers potentially puts your fingers fractions of an inch from the live electrical contacts, probably when you're wet and barefoot. A qualified electrician can take care of both of these timers for you."

tia,

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

You're looking for something like this.

Intermatic Insulator for Double-Pole Timer Switches, Item # 124T1952 for use in T100 Series Intermatic Timers (T103, T104, T105, T173, T174, T175, T176, T185, WH40), Timer Controls Accessories: Wall Timer Switches: Amazon.com: Tools & Home Improvemen

Intermatic Insulator for Double-Pole Timer Switches, Item # 124T1952 for use in T100 Series Intermatic Timers (T103, T104, T105, T173, T174, T175, T176, T185, WH40), Timer Controls Accessories: Wall Timer Switches: Amazon.com: Tools & Home Improvement

www.google.com

This one is for an Intermatic timer. Your photo is not best quality, but it looks like the timer on the left is an Intermatic. The other one looks like a Torx? You'll need to get the brand and model # to search for the part.

 

[HermanTX]

Timers are normally sold as a unit (box & timer). You may need to search for cover plate as well as the closing door
Maybe you can make a plastic face plate to cover the electrical parts. But you still need a cover (door) as well.

Here is a link to a full timer

T103 - Intermatic T103 - Heavy Duty Mechanical Time Switch, 40A, DPST (120V)

Intermatic T103 - Heavy Duty Mechanical Time Switch, 40A, DPST (120V) - Heavy Duty Mechanical Time Switch, 40A, DPST (120V)<br><br> The heavy duty mechanical time switch is designed for industrial, commercial and residential applications. Features a high horsepower rating that is ideal for...

www.supplyhouse.com

 

[quietdesperation]

thanks for the help, checking model #s now!

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

The cover I linked is for the 208-240 volt box. You should be able to find one for the 120 volt box as well. Not sure what you have.

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

You may need to search for cover plate as well as the closing door

I didn't notice the missing door. Thanks.

 

[Mike1162]

I'm surprised Intermatic doesn't have a better way of covering the wiring.

 

[jmastron]

I'm surprised Intermatic doesn't have a better way of covering the wiring.

Yeah, I have one of those timers remainng for my Polaris booster, and it's a similar sketchy clear plastic shield that may help someone accidentally brushing past while adjusting the timer, but definitely wouldn't stop a child from reaching in on purpose and touching the 240V terminals. I'm surprised these things are legal and so common, to be honest. I guess the idea is that the box is normally closed/latched, but that's not good enough for any other switch/breaker/etc enclosures.

But yes, as a seller those shields are what you need -- and the good thing is the buyer has their inspection results and is fully aware, and can replace later as they see fit.

 

[quietdesperation]

unfortunately the buyer is fully aware and has asked us to address the issue. looks like the intermatic was rebranded by a local pool company and they managed to remove the model number. the tork is an 1104, looking now but starting to think we may have to replace pool timers!

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

Can you post a closer pic of the Intermatic Box? The one shown in the photo below has terminals labeled 1-4 (ignore the first terminal on the left). This is for 208-277 volt applications.

 

[quietdesperation]

great customer service from intermatic, they identified the model and sent me a complimentary shield! on to tork now.

 

[quietdesperation]

well dang, spoke to a tork distributor, tork doesn't manufacture a shield, so it's either purchase a whole new unit or make something myself...maybe ebay will have a broken 1104...

 

[HermanTX]

well dang, spoke to a tork distributor, tork doesn't manufacture a shield, so it's either purchase a whole new unit or make something myself...maybe ebay will have a broken 1104...

Can you purchase the shield that was denoted in post #2 by @Rancho Cost-a-Lotta and modify it to use in the tork timer box?

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

I was looking at the shield on theTorx box. It should be pretty easy to trim a piece of plastic to size and drill a couple holes.

 

[Newdude]

Hey quiet !! Silly question. Are you or any of your friends the least bit handy ? If this is the only problem with selling your house for gobs of money in Croton (Have a buddy on Onieda Av), just replace the dang timers and be done. Even if you hired an electrician it would be $50 each and less than one hour labor. (You'll pay the full hour of course) Call them and tell them you have the timers and to skip the estimate to save some of their time. So, $250 and the house is sold with no other hitches. Or $100 for the timers and a six pack to any friend that could help.