Pool structure caved in from all the rain a few days ago
- Thread starter Kevmcc03
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Price of manual labor to have the dirt removed by shovel/hand to expose the rebar and regain the required clearance around it. Very common to have this happen but time consuming to correct. Shotcrete/Gunite crew will place drywall or something of that type behind the rebar to shoot up to that will take care of the extra large voids if needed.
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- Jul 17, 2019
- 4,070
- Pool Size
- 13000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
I'm assuming you are using a pool builder. If that is the case, I would assume they would be on the hook to fix it. Its not like this rain snuck up on us. Is the pool builder trying to pass along the extra cost to you? Is that in your contract?
Your contract likely specifies what events, if any, are so unexpected or undiscoverable before the fact that you instead of the builder have to pay. I remember for my pool, the height of the surrounding water-table was a concern and the contract laid out who was on the hook for dewatering during the build if it turned out to be needed (luckily it wasn’t). Would seem unlikely that rain would be considered unexpected or undiscoverable.
FWIW, that doesn’t look that bad at all. The floor looks stable — looks like just some mud from the sides went in the hole. Just spitballing a little but that looks like a good application for a small vacuum excavator which can be rented in your area for about $600 per day. That plus labor for a couple guys and any disposal fee for the mud spoils would presumably take care of it quick on the builder’s dime and onward the project goes.
FWIW, that doesn’t look that bad at all. The floor looks stable — looks like just some mud from the sides went in the hole. Just spitballing a little but that looks like a good application for a small vacuum excavator which can be rented in your area for about $600 per day. That plus labor for a couple guys and any disposal fee for the mud spoils would presumably take care of it quick on the builder’s dime and onward the project goes.
Jaffles
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- May 4, 2022
- 150
- Pool Size
- 22500
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Astral Viron eQuilibrium EQ35
I quite like this forum but man these builders do my head in. As JJ-Tex said its not like you can't see the rain coming. My dig got postponed 3 times due to rain on the way with scheduling. Once dug, it was meshed and gunite done in 3 days. It's not like the PB has weeks of work to contend with.
Sodel's solution sound like the easiest. Just man power and shovel will still probably hit the same mark or perhaps more. Unless its school holidays and you can bribe a bunch of kids with snacks and bit of cash.
Sodel's solution sound like the easiest. Just man power and shovel will still probably hit the same mark or perhaps more. Unless its school holidays and you can bribe a bunch of kids with snacks and bit of cash.
darkrider
Well-known member
- Jun 14, 2021
- 289
- Pool Size
- 27000
- Surface
- Plaster
- Chlorine
- Salt Water Generator
- SWG Type
- Jandy Aquapure 1400
Yep, I had heavy rains between the dig/rebar and shotcrete, which caused several cave-ins during our build. Our contract didn't have any specifics, and the PB stepped up and fixed it at no additional cost. It took them about a half day with a crew of about 5 or 6 to dig out all of the cave-ins and reset the rebar chairs, etc. We were already in the water table by a few feet with our dig, so they had already dug out a sump pit, and had a pump installed to keep any significant water from pooling in the hole. After the cave-ins, they also dusted everything in the general vicinity of the cave-ins with Quickcrete to provide additional strength until shotcrete was installed. If I had to guess, they probably used 10-12 bags. That seemed to work well, as we had rain that continued for several days afterwards, and didn't have any more cave-ins. They also used thin plywood sheeting over the larger voids, as Aqua-holics suggested, which provide a strong enough backdrop when they did the shotcrete. After the shotcrete was in and had cured, they removed the plywood and backfilled the voids with dirt.
Mcow
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- Jul 5, 2017
- 319
- Pool Size
- 22000
- Surface
- Plaster
- SWG Type
- Pentair Intellichlor IC-40
Our PB literally was doing the excavation in the rain... Ours caved in and they re-did the excavation at their cost. They had to shore it with plywood before gunite. 
Why didn’t they tarp it if they can see rain is coming? I’d get some friends and a few shovels before I spent $5500
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