"Phosphoric Acid Derivative" for copper removal

Sws

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Jun 11, 2024
74
Long Island Ny
Pool Size
10000
Surface
Vinyl
Chlorine
Liquid Chlorine
Hello,

When I first got my pool (before learning anything about its chemistry) it came with a copper ionizer.

I did a lot of work and removed it completely. For this year, I'm using Liquid Chlorine and cal hypo (because I have it).

I got something from the pool store last year containing "phosphoric acid derivative" and it was sold as a copper remover.

I don't believe my copper is too high. Last year it was .5ppm max. Is this phosphoric acid derivative harmful to the pool? I don't see any recommendations here for it. How should I dispose of it if I shouldn't use it?
 
Is this phosphoric acid derivative harmful to the pool?
No. Jack's magic step cleaner has a phosphoric acid derivative (which is a sequestrant) in the liquid portion. Many "stain removers" also contain these derivatives.

If you are not getting green to black stains, cartridge filters turning a turquoise blue-green color, blonde or gray hair turning green, possibly emerald green pool water, then you likely don't have a copper problem.

I don't see any recommendations here for it.
Here are our recommended chemicals. If any chemical you are considering is NOT on the list, ask here before you use it, and we will talk you out of using it.

Here are our non-recommended chemicals.

How should I dispose of it if I shouldn't use it?
Return it, or turn on your faucet and pour it down the drain.
 
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Hello,

When I first got my pool (before learning anything about its chemistry) it came with a copper ionizer.

I did a lot of work and removed it completely. For this year, I'm using Liquid Chlorine and cal hypo (because I have it).

I got something from the pool store last year containing "phosphoric acid derivative" and it was sold as a copper remover.

I don't believe my copper is too high. Last year it was .5ppm max. Is this phosphoric acid derivative harmful to the pool? I don't see any recommendations here for it. How should I dispose of it if I shouldn't use it?
The only way to remove copper is to replace the water. I don’t have a disposal recommendation but maybe someone else will.
 
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No. Jack's magic step cleaner has a phosphoric acid derivative (which is a sequestrant) in the liquid portion. Many "stain removers" also contain these derivatives.

If you are not getting green to black stains, cartridge filters turning a turquoise blue-green color, blonde or gray hair turning green, possibly emerald green pool water, then you likely don't have a copper problem.


Here are our recommended chemicals. If any chemical you are considering is NOT on the list, ask here before you use it, and we will talk you out of using it.

Here are our non-recommended chemicals.


Return it, or turn on your faucet and pour it down the drain.
Thanks,

I dont have a copper problem then. Maybe ill just keep this in storage incase I ever do.
 
I did a lot of work and removed it completely.

The only way to remove copper is to replace the water.
Good catch. I interpreted the post to mean OP did a lot of work to remove the copper ionizer.

@Sws did you mean work to remove the copper ionizer or the copper?
 
Does it have ingredients on the label?

I'd probably not use it. If you end up with copper problems, and decide to use sequestrants, I'd use one of the recommended ones in the Copper Wiki.
 
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Does it have ingredients on the label?

I'd probably not use it. If you end up with copper problems, and decide to use sequestrants, I'd use one of the recommended ones in the Copper Wiki.
Ill dump it. It only says "phosphoric acid derivatives" i also don't trust this store at all.
 

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