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There's a way to use a 5 gallon bucket to find out if you have a high chlorine demand problem. Check out this post:
http://www.troublefreepool.com/threads/6749-Bucket-test?p=54963&viewfull=1#post54963
http://www.troublefreepool.com/threads/6749-Bucket-test?p=54963&viewfull=1#post54963
Excellent. Thanks.
Pool store failure story just reared it's head here so there will be some delay. Details later...
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OK. Just started the chlorine demand bucket test. Henceforth to be known to me as the Other Bucket Test. Those buckets are so useful. Much more useful than pool stores...
So the pool store/builder guy came over today at my request for service. Over the phone, I asked them to check/replace the drain valve for the heater which was leaking and unable to be closed due to corrosion. I also asked that they check the metal plumbing lines on the inlet and outlet side of said heater as I was able to easily removed the inlet side pipe with my bare hands and a little jiggle. I also said that the heater mechanism itself looked like **** and doubted that it would work. On the phone, they said it worked last year but they'd check it out.
They came out today as I posted earlier in the thread, before the time they said, and left before I arrived, precisely at the time they said they would be there. AKA no oversight and reinforcement of my request directly to the service person. They replaced the valve (whoopidy doo, give me $8 and a monkey and I can fix that) and a pressure regulator on the heater. Still not sure if the heater works because... on the bill they so graciously left on my door, there is no indication that they actually tested the heater.
But anyway, pump was running great this afternoon, I'm starting to get excited about SLAMing it this evening and after scrubbing the walls and floor of the pool. I take a well deserved break on the throne of my master bedroom.
Paper.
No kids.
For a few minutes...
then...
my wife interrupts the sanctity of the throne to tell me that water is gushing everywhere. "Where?" I say. "The pool!" she says. "At the pumping station? The returns? Where?" I say. "By the pipes and stuff!" she says. "OK, honey. There is a lightswitch above the pump. Flip that up! I know up is usually on, but the idiot who installed the switch was an idiot. Flip it up!" She races away.
A few seconds later after I finish *ahem* my business, I meet her in the hallway, the left half of her body soaked completely through... I quicken my pace and run to the pump. There in all it's glory the inlet line going into the heater has broken free from the heater, just enough to spray water in all directions, probably with the same ease with which I detached it earlier in the day. A 360 degree shower greeted me as I reached over the pumping station and flipped the switch up. Now my wife and I are both soaked from head to toe and my rage boils over into a giggle. The fitting I asked them to check... specifically. How hard is that? Nope, I'm not a customer. I'm a credit card number. Thank you, come again...
Anyway... a ranting phone message (they were closed) and a few beers later (as you can probably tell by the ranting post) and I'm fine and content with monitoring a bucket for the rest of the evening...
So the pool store/builder guy came over today at my request for service. Over the phone, I asked them to check/replace the drain valve for the heater which was leaking and unable to be closed due to corrosion. I also asked that they check the metal plumbing lines on the inlet and outlet side of said heater as I was able to easily removed the inlet side pipe with my bare hands and a little jiggle. I also said that the heater mechanism itself looked like **** and doubted that it would work. On the phone, they said it worked last year but they'd check it out.
They came out today as I posted earlier in the thread, before the time they said, and left before I arrived, precisely at the time they said they would be there. AKA no oversight and reinforcement of my request directly to the service person. They replaced the valve (whoopidy doo, give me $8 and a monkey and I can fix that) and a pressure regulator on the heater. Still not sure if the heater works because... on the bill they so graciously left on my door, there is no indication that they actually tested the heater.
But anyway, pump was running great this afternoon, I'm starting to get excited about SLAMing it this evening and after scrubbing the walls and floor of the pool. I take a well deserved break on the throne of my master bedroom.
Paper.
No kids.
For a few minutes...
then...
my wife interrupts the sanctity of the throne to tell me that water is gushing everywhere. "Where?" I say. "The pool!" she says. "At the pumping station? The returns? Where?" I say. "By the pipes and stuff!" she says. "OK, honey. There is a lightswitch above the pump. Flip that up! I know up is usually on, but the idiot who installed the switch was an idiot. Flip it up!" She races away.
A few seconds later after I finish *ahem* my business, I meet her in the hallway, the left half of her body soaked completely through... I quicken my pace and run to the pump. There in all it's glory the inlet line going into the heater has broken free from the heater, just enough to spray water in all directions, probably with the same ease with which I detached it earlier in the day. A 360 degree shower greeted me as I reached over the pumping station and flipped the switch up. Now my wife and I are both soaked from head to toe and my rage boils over into a giggle. The fitting I asked them to check... specifically. How hard is that? Nope, I'm not a customer. I'm a credit card number. Thank you, come again...
Anyway... a ranting phone message (they were closed) and a few beers later (as you can probably tell by the ranting post) and I'm fine and content with monitoring a bucket for the rest of the evening...
After adding 1 oz of 6% bleach, Waited 1 hour. Test results:
FC: 4
CC: 1.5
Adding another ounce.
Anything with the Nature2 that's still installed inline that could be throwing off results?
FC: 4
CC: 1.5
Adding another ounce.
Anything with the Nature2 that's still installed inline that could be throwing off results?
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Okey dokey. Thanks.
tick tock tick tock
Let's see tomorrow... I'll see about that Tigershark working or not.
Added 1 more oz. Waited an hour.
FC: 40
CC: 16.5
That was alot of drops...
So I'm looking at needing... about 136 ppm of FC to offset the chlorine demand?
FC: 40
CC: 16.5
That was alot of drops...
So I'm looking at needing... about 136 ppm of FC to offset the chlorine demand?
Perhaps Jason can chime in, but I think you will still need to deal with the CC. Just remember you can NOT dose the pool with 96ppm. I think you would be ok dosing up to mustard shock level however. What do the rest of you guys think?
I would think SLAMing up to about 18 and then trying to maintain would eventually get me through the CC?
I've got plumbing issues to deal with in the meantime but any input would be appreciated.
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I've got plumbing issues to deal with in the meantime but any input would be appreciated.
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I do not fully understand that test, but you certainly do not want to add it all at once. It is just giving an idea of hour much to expect. So raising to slam level 10+ times might be expected before the ammonia is gone.
Just keep slamming as usual. It may take a few extra days but eventually you will get rid of the ammonia as long as you keep slamming.
I'm dealing with a bit of ammonia myself.
I'm dealing with a bit of ammonia myself.
Doh. Good luck. I may have to get an ammonia test.
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Picked up an ammonia test today. Will check it tonight. Also picked up more 12.5% at Menards, bogo to 2 dollars a gallon but they only had 4 left. Going back later this week. I will need more.
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Hey JVTrain, do you have a Fleetfarm near you? $10 for 4 gallons of 12.5% here (twin cities). It is almost always that price there.
Yep! I've picked up 4 cases of that so far. The Menard's deal is $0.50 less per gallon through May 11, but I'll be hitting up both again this week in prep for my ordeal.
When it rains, it pours, both outside right now (it's been raining for 2 days straight and will the rest of the week as linen can attest) and for me with the pool. While waiting on getting a heater line replumbed, I was running the pump under direct supervision this weekend. I now have a pinhole leak in the bottom of the multiport, I believe the filter outlet connection. Steady stream of water like a pinhole in a water balloon. Looks like I'll need to replace the multiport valve. It's a Hayward SP0715. Was looking at this as a replacement: http://www.amazon.com/Hayward-SP071...98691285&sr=8-1&keywords=hayward+valve+SP0715. Thoughts?
In the meantime with all this rain, I'll be running the sub pump to get the pool level down, which isn't all bad since it should dilute my suspected ammonia problem at least a little bit.
Also ran my Aquavac TigerShark this weekend to attempt to clear the bottom of the pool a bit. Not overly impressed. Did not climb walls at all. Seemed to go to deep end of pool and be lazy most of the time... I could not find a high velocity inlet for it to try out. May order one to see if that helps my R2 unit.