New Build in Phoenix *UPDATED 9/20/13*

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QUICKLINKS TO TIME-LAPSE VIDEOS:

3D DESIGN VIDEO: new-build-in-phoenix-updated-4-20-13-t56532.html#p463960
EXCAVATION: new-build-in-phoenix-updated-4-20-13-t56532.html#p466132
PLUMBING: new-build-in-phoenix-updated-4-20-13-t56532-20.html#p472879
REBAR: new-build-in-phoenix-updated-4-20-13-t56532-20.html#p473425
SHOTCRETE: new-build-in-phoenix-updated-4-20-13-t56532-40.html#p474862
PEBBLESHEEN:http://www.troublefreepool.com/new-build-in-phoenix-updated-9-20-13-t56532-120.html#p585167
FILLING IT UP:http://www.troublefreepool.com/new-build-in-phoenix-updated-9-20-13-t56532-120.html#p585183

Hello!!! I have been following many of the threads on this site for about 6 months or so, gathering info on how I want to do my pool. Ive decided to do an owner-build rather than go with a pool builder. I have heard many success stories going this route and have some experience with semi-large projects, plus several of my co-workers have gone this route and say its the way to go. I am wanting to do a swim-up bar with an adjacent sunken kitchen and overhead ramada, a small grotto, a baja entry step, and a spa with a tiered-down stone overflow. Definitely a large and costly project. I did go to two local pool builders originally to get an idea of what they would charge, and was "sticker shocked" when their estimates came in (YIKES!!!), so I decided to do it myself and cut out the middle-man markup. If I can stay within my budget, I will probably save 30-40 percent of what the pool builders were going to charge. I will admit, I am a little nervous about doing this on my own, but I am pretty sure I can pull this off. If anyone has questions, comments, or any advice they can offer to help me out or get me thinking about things then PLEASE do so!!! I will try and throw up as many photos as possible along the way. Here is the design and 3D rendering:

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Over the past several months, I put together a drawing which I submitted to a local :arrow: "Build Your Own Pool" company (Dont know if we can use their names, but that is pretty much the name they use). They refined it a little and so far have been great to work with. They have put me in touch with many contractors and have their own whosale pool equipment company. They put together an equipment list and theres no pressure to buy from them in case you find some stuff cheaper elsewhere. I have elected to go with the Pentair family of pool products. Im somewhat of a Google guru, so I did manage to find the majority of the equipment much cheaper...Now before you start thinking about internet purchases warranty stuff, I did call Pentair and was assured by them that their manufacturers warranty applies to all of their equipment regardless of where it was purchased, as long as they are an authorized dealer and I send in the necessary warranty info. So heres the list of equipment I am going with:

3 Pentair Intelliflo VS (011018) pumps
Pentair Clean and Clear Plus 520 (160332)
Pentair Mastertemp 400K BTU (460736)
Pentair Easytouch 8 with IC40 cell (460736)
Pentair 5G Intellibrite (pool)
Pentair 5G Intellibrite (spa)
4 Pentair Globrite (grotto, baja step, barstools, cove next to grotto)
4 Pentair Magicstream Laminars
2 CMP 36" water shears
Paramount PV3 In-floor heads (steps and benches only)
Paramount Venturi skimmer
Paramount Water Leveler
Paramount MDX-R3 drain with SDX side drain
Dolphin M4 or M5 robotic cleaner (havent decided yet)


I am only doing in-floor heads on the steps and benches because I am not sold on their cleaning effectiveness, just want them to blow the dirt and junk down to the floor and let the drain/robotic cleaner do the rest. Most of the equipment is already here and layout was done on friday, waiting for the city to hand me the permits so I can start digging. When this is all done, I hope posting all of this helps anyone wanting to go the owner-builder route. Ill post quick links at the top of this post so you can jump right to the different build phases.
 

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You can make the photos smaller in any editor, including Microsoft Picture Manager ... just resize them to reduce the size.

Are you bar stools going to be on a step (kind of looks like it in the picture)? I was going to recommend the floor jets around them as well as I have read of robots not being able to navigate around the stools and getting stuck.

Looks like it will be a very nice pool!!!
 
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jblizzle said:
You can make the photos smaller in any editor, including Microsoft Picture Manager ... just resize them to reduce the size.

Are you bar stools going to be on a step (kind of looks like it in the picture)? I was going to recommend the floor jets around them as well as I have read of robots not being able to navigate around the stools and getting stuck.

Looks like it will be a very nice pool!!!
Yes the stools are on a step and the in-floor heads will be between them. I am also told the robots won't get in there. I'm hoping it won't get stuck in there or it will kind of defeat the purpose of throwing it in and letting it do its job while I go attend to other things.
 
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Before pics:
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And after ripping everything out and layout:
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Permit should be in hand by Wednesday at the latest!!! More to come...
 

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Tap Tap Tap....Equipment anxiously awaiting to go to work!!! Dig starts Tuesday, I hope!!![attachment=0:14e5ukv3]IMG_20130324_155629_398-web.jpg[/attachment:14e5ukv3]
 

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Can't wait to see this pool build!
 

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Ok, finally got the time-lapse video put together. If anyone wants to know what I used for this, i'll list it below:

Camera: Brinno TLC100 (custom setting: 1 pix every 5 seconds)
Software: Adobe Premiere Pro CS5

[youtube:4h61tway]IW91bZJE03c[/youtube:4h61tway]
 
Re: New Build in Phoenix *UPDATED 3/25*

Are the stacked stone in front of the spa going to be your steps to get out on that side? How much room is it between your spa and the fire bowls? Would someone have to get out of the pool on the south side and walk all away around to join soneone one the north patio. Maybe a step out on the west ledge would be good.
 
Re: New Build in Phoenix *UPDATED 3/25*

Cool, the video turned out nice. Looking back i wish I had taken a pic at least every 5 seconds but I was worried the phone memory would fill up too fast. Definitely learned some lessons for future time lapse videos.
 
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txsteel said:
Are the stacked stone in front of the spa going to be your steps to get out on that side? How much room is it between your spa and the fire bowls? Would someone have to get out of the pool on the south side and walk all away around to join soneone one the north patio. Maybe a step out on the west ledge would be good.

The whole area on the spa side is going to be +24" above grade. The fire bowls are on each side of the spa and elevated another 12". Yes if you get out of the spa you have to walk around the pool, either through the kitchen or around the grotto.
 
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JimboAZ said:
Cool, the video turned out nice. Looking back i wish I had taken a pic at least every 5 seconds but I was worried the phone memory would fill up too fast. Definitely learned some lessons for future time lapse videos.

Yeah Jimbo, definitely a learning experience with time lapse video. Ive really been wanting to break in this Adobe Premiere Pro software so this pool project is a perfect test run.
 
Re: New Build in Phoenix *UPDATED 3/25*

Your pool is looking great so far. Thinking of going the owner build route. Can you recommend, tell me the company who is helping you find contractors etc? Thanks!
 

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