Jandy VSP and feature programing

[Tortuga353]

We have have Jandy 2.7HP VSP, pool jets, bubbler, waterfall, and JE3000TR heat pump. The heat pump was just installed. I programmed all the speeds last weekend for water alone, bubbler setting which is efficient for bubbler and waterfall. They were ideal last weekend but now with the heat pump they are no longer ideal. Question is there an additive capability with Aqualink 2.0?

for instance pool only 2100 rpm
Pool + waterfall 2300 rpm
Pool + waterfall + heat pump 2750 rpm
Pool + waterfall + heat pump + bubbler 3450 rpm

is this a pipe dream?

 

[Dtkokay]

I have a similar setup with the same pump and iAqualink 2.0. I don't understand your question though. What is no longer "ideal" about your current setup?

With the heat pump, I would set that up for your comfort level, regardless of whether you're running only the pool, waterfall, and/or bubbler. In other words, set the heat pump where you like it, and don't worry about whether the warm water is returning through the main pool returns, waterfall, or bubblers. I may be misunderstanding your question though.

 

[Tortuga353]

Yeah I guess maybe I’m not being clear. I mean I can’t go all on with my features now that the heat pump is installed. I adjusted my assigned speeds on Jandy Flowpro 2.7 to “our ideal” with the water fall and bubbler without heat pump. Now when the heater kicks on the water fall is barely running out. I turned the VSP up to a higher RPM and it works fine, but do I just now reprogram to that higher RPM on water fall and bubbler? Seems like a waste to run heater at a higher speed all the time to compensate if a feature is turned on? Or leave it ideal RPM and just change to heat or cool mode on the features and assign a VSP setting to just manually change when it is likely to be heating or cooling. I’m just trying to make it simple so my wife can just turn it on and things work...

In my mind there would be a speed for water fall, and a speed for water + heater, but from what I’ve read nothing is additive and only the highest speed trumps.

On a side note my pump and iAquaLink read one temp and when it is set to temp 1 and will say ENA like the heat pump is not running. I have not seen my heater cutoff yet on it own. I started off at 88 and it never reached that temp. I adjusted to 85 and again stayed on for 12 hours. I am now at 83and my pump temp reads 84 but the heat pump is running and says 82 on its readout with a set temp of 83. I guess Alabama power is a sponsor of Jandy pool equipment. Haha

 

[ajw22]

You are seeing the limitations to running everything on one pump. That is why pools often have a separate water features pump.

The Aqualink is not smart enough to know to increase the VS pump RPM when the HP is running. Maybe someday but I would not hold my breath.

 

[Tortuga353]

That is what I figured. Oh well I’ll assign my features to run at higher speeds so that way things work and have a heat/cool off speed for when I feel like trying to save money.

I am pretty surprised in how low tech the automation is on pools. I guess I had my expectations too high. After watching some of the videos the stuff I have is pretty high tech compared to all the manual valves and switches. Who’s wearing the pool conductor hat today? Haha

 

[ajw22]

Pool automation controls lag the equipment innovation in VS pumps and HPs. And the designers lack experience and imagination in how customers will combine and configure equipment. You are an example and the designers would tell you they assumed you would have a separate water features pump.

 

[Tortuga353]

Yeah another reason I wish I found this forum during the planning phase. Oh well. Pools great and the heater was a last minute decision as they were starting to dig. May have laid it out differently if we planned that from the beginning.

 

[PoolGate]

You could set up your "OneTouch" buttons to basically do this. Press 1 button and x items go on at y speed, then another button for another set of items at a different speed. Yeah, pool automation is quite archaic. Changing the color on your pool light still involves the Aqualink turning on and off the switch to the light x amount of times to get to the proper program. Mickey Mouse.

 

[Tortuga353]

Yep I laugh a little at the lights having to flash through the entire program. My dad did a lot of the automation and water monitoring equipment for the Atlanta Aquarium. He will laugh as well at the lights.

 

[Dtkokay]

Okay, I understand now. You’ll have to program the various features to run at higher RPMs, as you mentioned. The higher RPM program always overrides a lower RPM program.