Hayward W36060 Rotate Motor Orientation

[Cdubcincy]

My old 6060 booster pump had the peckerhead at 9 o’clock while looking at the intake. The newer replacement comes with it in the 12 o’clock position. Is anyone aware of an issue if I pop off the 4 mounting bolts to the pump head and rotate it? I’m worried my existing seal tight run won’t make it to that position and I would prefer to not have to replace that.

In the manual it gives instructions to allow for a volute rotation but nothing on the motor itself.

 

[1poolman1]

My old 6060 booster pump had the peckerhead at 9 o’clock while looking at the intake. The newer replacement comes with it in the 12 o’clock position. Is anyone aware of an issue if I pop off the 4 mounting bolts to the pump head and rotate it? I’m worried my existing seal tight run won’t make it to that position and I would prefer to not have to replace that.

In the manual it gives instructions to allow for a volute rotation but nothing on the motor itself.

If your old pump was oriented at the 9:00 o'clock position, the original installer did that.
So go ahead, remove the bolts holding the volute, that's only the front of the pump, not the sealplate that attaches to the motor, and reposition as you need.
Are you using hoses to connect to the system? If so, there should be enough hose that you don't need to do that.

 

[Cdubcincy]

If your old pump was oriented at the 9:00 o'clock position, the original installer did that.
So go ahead, remove the bolts holding the volute, that's only the front of the pump, not the sealplate that attaches to the motor, and reposition as you need.
Are you using hoses to connect to the system? If so, there should be enough hose that you don't need to do that.

It’s a flexible seal tight conduit, it might reach. If not these are the bolts I thought I could remove and then rotate it 90 degrees and bolt back on.

 

[JamesW]

No, you cannot remove those bolts and rotate the motor.

Can you explain better exactly what you are trying to do?

Can you show pictures of everything?

https://www.heritagepoolplus.com/amfile/file/download/file/7557/product/683884/

 

[JamesW]

If these two hole distances are exactly equal, you could potentially rotate the motor 90 degrees, but you would have to remove the impeller first before trying to rotate the motor.

There is a gap that goes down and the motor should be oriented with the gap down.

 

[JamesW]

 

[Cdubcincy]

It’s dark here now so I’ll have to get a picture tomorrow. Essentially the motor junction box is on the side of my existing setup and the flex conduit looks fairly tight so I’m worried it won’t reach the top junction position of my new pump. I’m starting to wonder if my existing motor is not original to the pump which is a Hayward 6060.

Illlustration of my existing pump, junction box, and conduit:

 

[JamesW]

Conduit and wire are fairly easy to replace if necessary.

I would not try to rotate the motor.

 

[JamesW]

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[JamesW]

 

[1poolman1]

It’s a flexible seal tight conduit, it might reach. If not these are the bolts I thought I could remove and then rotate it 90 degrees and bolt back on.

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Sorry, had to go way back in the memory to realize what you were wanting to do. "Peckerhead" is a very old term. The original installer did what you are wanting to do as, to my knowledge, Hayward never had a side-mounted J-box on that pump. Is it plumbed with hoses now?

You could remove those four bolts and rotate the motor. The diagrams of that mounting flange indicate that the dimensions between the holes is the same. The impeller will just turn with the motor, and I have seen standard motors mounted that way for just the same reason, conduit wouldn't reach. You would be better off re-wiring with new conduit and wire.

As JamesW mentioned, the "weep hole" that is built-in to the motor flange won't be "down," so if there is ever a seal leak you won't know until the motor is damaged, most likely.

 

[JamesW]

You have to pull the motor back some to rotate the motor.

The seal spring has some room to compress, but not much.

It might rotate, but probably not without removing the impeller.

 

[1poolman1]

You have to pull the motor back some to rotate the motor.

The seal spring has some room to compress, but not much.

It might rotate, but probably not without removing the impeller.

Because of that "grip" behind the outlet, you may be right. I've seen it done on Sta-Rite pumps and it just would rotate without removing the impeller, just pull the motor back a little as you said. I always rotated them back and installed new conduit/wiring whenever I came across a "sideways" motor. With the rear vents exposed there would be water that could get into the wiring and cause damage.

 

[Cdubcincy]

Sorry, had to go way back in the memory to realize what you were wanting to do. "Peckerhead" is a very old term. The original installer did what you are wanting to do as, to my knowledge, Hayward never had a side-mounted J-box on that pump. Is it plumbed with hoses now?

You could remove those four bolts and rotate the motor. The diagrams of that mounting flange indicate that the dimensions between the holes is the same. The impeller will just turn with the motor, and I have seen standard motors mounted that way for just the same reason, conduit wouldn't reach. You would be better off re-wiring with new conduit and wire.

As JamesW mentioned, the "weep hole" that is built-in to the motor flange won't be "down," so if there is ever a seal leak you won't know until the motor is damaged, most likely.

Sorry, I deal a lot with industrial mechanics and electricians and sometimes don’t realize that their terminology doesn’t transfer to the outside world!

We are due for below freezing temps the next 2 days, so I’m going to hold off on the replacement until this weekend. Don’t wont to get caught with no water circulation at 26 degrees.

 

[Cdubcincy]

I got it replaced today, had just enough wire and conduit to make it to the new location. Thanks for all the feedback everyone.

 

[JamesW]

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