Contemplating switching from pebblesheen to quartz last minute

scdaren

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Thank you. I would think so too, but... is the fina still “more durable” than plaster? I’m like ok if I go away from the pebble should I just do plaster or quartz?!
They say it is lasts as long as the regular pebble... but it has not been around nearly as long, so I don't really know for sure, but I'm pretty confident it will last longer than plaster. My understanding (and I may be mistaken) is that the pebble fina is very similar to quartz.

A big part of the longevity has to do with how your pool is maintained. If you stick with this site and follow the guidelines, keeping your water balanced, any finish is going to last a long time.
 

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A lot will depend on what playing in the pool means for you. Kicking off the walls and walking around you will certainly feel the roughness of a pebble finish over a quartz finish.

However, if you spend hours in the pool playing volleyball or doing water aerobics even a new smooth plaster finish can cause abrasions. Especially for children or if your feet are overly soft/unconditioned.

Either way, I would encourage you to educate yourself as much as you can on the installation process, be present on the day of install, and stay on top of your water chemistry (or make sure that your contractor is) during the initial 30 day cure period.
 
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JenniferMarie90

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A lot will depend on what playing in the pool means for you. Kicking off the walls and walking around you will certainly feel the roughness of a pebble finish over a quartz finish.

However, if you spend hours in the pool playing volleyball or doing water aerobics even a new smooth plaster finish can cause abrasions. Especially for children or if your feet are overly soft/unconditioned.

Either way, I would encourage you to educate yourself as much as you can on the installation process, be present on the day of install, and stay on top of your water chemistry (or make sure that your contractor is) during the initial 30 day cure period.
Thank you. I order my TF100 kit and plan to stay on top of the chemistry myself once
I get a handle on how to do that. I appreciate your thoughts
 

JenniferMarie90

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They say it is lasts as long as the regular pebble... but it has not been around nearly as long, so I don't really know for sure, but I'm pretty confident it will last longer than plaster. My understanding (and I may be mistaken) is that the pebble fina is very similar to quartz.

A big part of the longevity has to do with how your pool is maintained. If you stick with this site and follow the guidelines, keeping your water balanced, any finish is going to last a long time.

I have to say I really enjoyed the feel. Does it LOOK like plaster close up or is there some sparkle in it? I didn’t pay enough attention when I went to look yesterday myself.
 

scdaren

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I have to say I really enjoyed the feel. Does it LOOK like plaster close up or is there some sparkle in it? I didn’t pay enough attention when I went to look yesterday myself.
Yeah it does have some sparkle to it, what they call shimmering sea. It's not particularly noticeable, I think it just helps produce a nice bright color in the water.
If someone who didn't know anything about pool finishes looked at ours, I think they would just assume it's plaster that looks really good. We were going for a really traditional light and bright blue color for our pool, and that's exactly what we got with the Bella Blue.
 

JenniferMarie90

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Yeah it does have some sparkle to it, what they call shimmering sea. It's not particularly noticeable, I think it just helps produce a nice bright color in the water.
If someone who didn't know anything about pool finishes looked at ours, I think they would just assume it's plaster that looks really good. We were going for a really traditional light and bright blue color for our pool, and that's exactly what we got with the Bella Blue.

thank you so much. I’m sort of anal so I’m trying to go with colors with the least chance of mottling so the Grigio and cielo blue are catching my eye.
 

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thank you so much. I’m sort of anal so I’m trying to go with colors with the least chance of mottling so the Grigio and cielo blue are catching my eye.
Here's more of an action shot of what ours looks like when swimming.

Originally we wanted white and were going to go with the Cielo, but then decided to go with something more blue because we didn't want the sun shelf to look washed out.
 

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march2012

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we got quartz instead of pebble in our last pool because all the pebbles were too rough. We still got periodic scrapes from quartz. Plaster is so nice, but we wanted a dark color. The kids wanted plaster, but my wife wanted quartz in our new pool. So quartz it is.
 

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we got quartz instead of pebble in our last pool because all the pebbles were too rough. We still got periodic scrapes from quartz. Plaster is so nice, but we wanted a dark color. The kids wanted plaster, but my wife wanted quartz in our new pool. So quartz it is.
So many choices it’s hard!
 

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We currently have quartz. Premix Marbletite Marquis almost black finish (60% pewter/40% charcoal). No mottling and a beautiful water color. The product carried a 10 year warranty and it started getting rough right at year 10 and failing by year 12 (finish is actually missing in a couple spots at the bottom of the pool). We stretched it to year 13 and now we're refinishing with Wet Edge Signature Matrix Tahoe in a couple weeks. The quartz is now like sharp razors and I've cut and shed blood numerous times on the finish, edge of the sunshelf and steps. So have our guests. It was very smooth when first installed but over the years, no matter how balanced your chemicals are, when brushing your pool the plaster wears and exposes more of the quartz. You'll begin to find quartz at the bottom of the pool as it comes loose and the finish will get sharp as more of the edges of quartz are exposed (quartz is not round like pebbles). I know the pebble finish will feel somewhat different than the quartz. They advertise the Wet Edge Signature Matrix finish blends small and large pebbles allowing the smaller pebbles to fill in the gaps between the larger ones, creating a tighter pebble and smoother finish 🤞 Lifetime warranty on the finish in Florida! Hoping it lasts longer than our quartz did!
 
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We currently have quartz. Premix Marbletite Marquis almost black finish (60% pewter/40% charcoal). No mottling and a beautiful water color. The product carried a 10 year warranty and it started getting rough right at year 10 and failing by year 12 (finish is actually missing in a couple spots at the bottom of the pool). We stretched it to year 13 and now we're refinishing with Wet Edge Signature Matrix Tahoe in a couple weeks. The quartz is now like sharp razors and I've cut and shed blood numerous times on the finish, edge off the sunshelf and steps. So have our guests. It was very smooth when first installed but over the years, no matter how balanced your chemicals are, when brushing your pool the plaster wears and exposes more of the quartz. You'll begin to find quartz at the bottom of the pool as it comes loose and the finish will get sharp as more of the edges of quartz are exposed (quartz is not round like pebbles). I know the pebble finish will feel somewhat different than the quartz. They advertise the Wet Edge Signature Matrix finish blends small and large pebbles allowing the smaller pebbles to fill in the gaps between the larger ones, creating a tighter pebble and smoother finish 🤞 Lifetime warranty on the finish in Florida! Hoping it lasts longer than our quartz did!

This is the reason I have chose pebble finishes twice now. I love the way plaster/quartz feels but over time they all get rough. Why not get the one that is sort of rough but is "supposed" to last longer. Plus it hides stains or other issues with the finish so much better than plaster/quartz.
 

JenniferMarie90

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This is the reason I have chose pebble finishes twice now. I love the way plaster/quartz feels but over time they all get rough. Why not get the one that is sort of rough but is "supposed" to last longer. Plus it hides stains or other issues with the finish so much better than plaster/quartz.
You guys are very convincing! Is this an issue that can arise with pebble fina? If you know. I do have a call out to wet edge for the primer a stone just waiting to hear pricing.
 

Dschnell

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You guys are very convincing! Is this an issue that can arise with pebble fina? If you know. I do have a call out to wet edge for the primer a stone just waiting to hear pricing.
Just so you prepare yourself... Primera stone is their top tier product $$$ It is a lot of work to install because after install they come in to sand/buff the entire pool to that smooth finish. On the flip side you don't have to refinish again if you get this. They can come in and buff it over and over if needed.
 
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Just so you prepare yourself... Primera stone is their top tier product $$$ It is a lot of work to install because after install they come in to sand/buff the entire pool to that smooth finish. On the flip side you don't have to refinish again if you get this. They can come in and buff it over and over if needed.
That’s true! I am preparing myself for not being able to squeeze it into the budget...if I can’t I may go back to checking out pebble fina. I don’t know why but the lining of the pool is giving me the most grief.
 

Dschnell

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That’s true! I am preparing myself for not being able to squeeze it into the budget...if I can’t I may go back to checking out pebble fina. I don’t know why but the lining of the pool is giving me the most grief.

I tend to "over research" things as well so I get it!!! However with this refinish I'm just so adamant about NOT having to refinish our pool again anytime soon so I'm going with the pebble without even feeling it first 😬 TOTALLY unlike me!!! During our initial pool build our pool builder sent us to numerous pools to step in and feel the finishes 😂 This time I'm going for longevity. The quartz is currently like knives. This can't be worse. Plus, I grew up in Florida running around barefoot all summer long as a kid. I'll take the pebble like a champ. My husband's sensitive feet are more of a worry. But with the cost of this refinish I don't think he'll care as long as it lasts and we don't have to refinish again anytime soon!
 
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colleenbevans

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We just switched on our pool build from marbelite Marquis to wed edge signature matrix. @Dschnell , could you post pictures of your Sig Matrix Tahoe finish when its finished? We are leaning toward sig matrix Laguna Blue.
 
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Dschnell

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We just switched on our pool build from marbelite Marquis to wed edge signature matrix. @Dschnell , could you post pictures of your Sig Matrix Tahoe finish when its finished? We are leaning toward sig matrix Laguna Blue.
I absolutely will! Looks like we get started on the refinish in a couple weeks. All my tile is in stock and already placed on hold by my builder so it's a matter of getting in line.
 
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Dschnell

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We are waiting for gunite- plumber finished yesterday. I would think we are 3 weeks minimum out from wet edge.
Hmm, if it's anything like Florida is, you may be further out than that. If it were here you'd be months away from that yet. They are going so slow here for new builds and then county inspections in between cause delays as well. The pebble is the absolute last thing to go in. However, I'm not sure how fast pool builds are going up where you are. Luckily for us refinishing projects don't need any permits pulled or inspections!
 

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I tend to "over research" things as well so I get it!!! However with this refinish I'm just so adamant about NOT having to refinish our pool again anytime soon so I'm going with the pebble without even feeling it first 😬 TOTALLY unlike me!!! During our initial pool build our pool builder sent us to numerous pools to step in and feel the finishes 😂 This time I'm going for longevity. The quartz is currently like knives. This can't be worse. Plus, I grew up in Florida running around barefoot all summer long as a kid. I'll take the pebble like a champ. My husband's sensitive feet are more of a worry. But with the cost of this refinish I don't think he'll care as long as it lasts and we don't have to refinish again anytime soon!
I think I’m at the point of over researching too lol which pebble product and color are you going with? The wet edge signature matrix? I’m curious about that one too
 

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