Choosing new pump and automation

[lmartins6746]

My 1HP Hawyard Superpump is effectively dead.

The pool is about 20-25k gallons. I have chlorine injection via stenner pump. I believe leaking from the stenner caused corrosion and the premature demise of my pump. I am going to relocate the stenner to try an remedy that.

I am looking for a new pump that will work well with automation. For automation I want to be able to start/stop/schedule/change speeds on the pump. I also want to be able start/stop the stenner. Maybe control pool or landscape lights and maybe in the future a heater.

I don't care much about the UI on the equipment. I need to be able do to everything via an app. I have strong wifi at the equipment.

Will the pentair intelliconnect + intelliflo VS meet my needs? my plumbing is 1.5 inch and this pump supports 2 inch connections...is it ok to reduce?

Pentair IntelliFlo Variable Speed High Performance Pool Pump with Digital Time Clock | 3HP Max | EC-011028

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Pentair IntelliConnect Control and Monitoring System | EC-523317

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Are there cheaper alternatives? I looked into the superflo but it didn't integrate well with the intelliconnect

 

[PoolGate]

Someone will be along to comment on the Inteliflo (I'm sure it does what you want) but I want to suggest you also go with a SWCG with the equipment upgrade and lose the stenner.

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

The IntelliConnect is compatible with IntelliFlo pumps. It doesn't work SuperFlo VS/VST models.

The IntelliConnect won't control valve actuators, but you probably know that. You should be able to control the Stenner and a future heater.

The IntelliConnect is a pretty good value for Pentair automation.

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

Lots of folks are having problems finding the IntelliFlo in stock. Let us know how your search goes.

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

I just saw this in the manual. It looks like a couple versions of the IntelliFlo and the IntelliPro don't work with IntelliConnect:

IntelliConnect is not compatible with IntelliFlo VF (P/N 011012), IntelliFlo VS (P/N 011013) and IntelliPro VS (P/N P6E6T4H-209L) pumps.​

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[lmartins6746]

I just saw this in the manual. It looks like a couple versions of the IntelliFlo and the IntelliPro don't work with IntelliConnect:

IntelliConnect is not compatible with IntelliFlo VF (P/N 011012), IntelliFlo VS (P/N 011013) and IntelliPro VS (P/N P6E6T4H-209L) pumps.​

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Interesting, I will have to be careful


It looks like the newer SuperFlo VST does work with IntelliConnect. However it seems the T is for Trade Grade and that is only available at brick and mortar stores. Do I have that right?

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

It looks like the newer SuperFlo VST does work with IntelliConnect. However it seems the T is for Trade Grade and that is only available at brick and mortar stores. Do I have that right?

Unfortunately, the SuperFlo pumps don't work with IntelliConnect via the RS-485 connection. From the SuperFlo Manual Page 5:

Note: IntelliConnect® Control and Monitoring Systems can NOT externally control this pump via RS-485. The pump will need to be connected via digital inputs. Refer to External Control via Digital Inputs on page 6.​

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I would be nice if they'd include that in the IntelliConnect manual.

 

[lmartins6746]

This is what I see in the Superflo manual

SuperFlo VST and SuperMax VS pumps can be
externally controlled by most Pentair control systems
via an RS-485 connection using the RS-485 Automation
Wiring Kit (P/N 356324Z - Black). The pump address
and other settings can be programmed from the pump's
keypad. See External Control via RS-485, page 5

Maybe the 'most' is what disqualifies the intelliconnect.

 

[Rancho Cost-a-Lotta]

Maybe the 'most' is what disqualifies the intelliconnect.

I believe so. The "Note" I posted above appears right after the quote you posted.

Here's a thread from someone that found out the hard way:

SuperFlo VST with Intelliconnect

Hi all - Was hoping to get some help or direction, since Pentair customer service completely misled me.... I just replaced my old single stage pump with the new SuperFlo VST (manufactured summer of last year) at the advice of Pentair customer service. I specifically told them on numerous...

www.troublefreepool.com

 

[lmartins6746]

I believe so. The "Note" I posted above appears right after the quote you posted.

Here's a thread from someone that found out the hard way:

SuperFlo VST with Intelliconnect

Hi all - Was hoping to get some help or direction, since Pentair customer service completely misled me.... I just replaced my old single stage pump with the new SuperFlo VST (manufactured summer of last year) at the advice of Pentair customer service. I specifically told them on numerous...

www.troublefreepool.com

ah yes, I read that thread the other day.