Best Bread Machines?

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We got a Breadman Ultimate TR2200 from my mom who didn't use it anymore, and for the past year or so we've been using it fairly regularily for making bread and pizza dough. Yesterday when I went to make pizza dough I noticed the shaft seemed bound up. I was able to free it and made the dough, but I noticed the shaft was loose, a sure sign of a worn bearing/bushing, and I noticed some black stuff on the dough near the mixer paddle, either grease or metal dust.

They no longer make parts for that model. While I can find new pans for $20 on eBay, they are all used, so who knows how long they will last.

I could also almost certainly repair it myself, but I don't really feel like doing that, as I'd have to source a bearing/bushing, plus the seal is worn and those run $20 for new ones.

New bread machines start at just $50 on Amazon, at roughly 4-4.2 stars, and run up what seems like the top of the line Zojirushi Virtuoso Plus at 4.5 stars (2500 ratings), but with a $270 price tag. I do think we want dual mixers, which cuts out the $50 models, as the single mixer usually leaves some unmixed flour on the sides of the pan, especially with a 1 lb-loaf, if you aren't around to scrap it down partway through the kneading cycle (such as an overnight run or you start it and run off to do some errands).

Anybody have thoughts on recommended models? I like buying quality things, especially if they last, so I'm leaning towards the Zojirushi. I'd especially like a brand that I know I'll be able to buy replacement pans, belts, or other parts for it a few years down the road, rather than chucking out (or trying to DIY repair) an otherwise perfectly functioning machine.

Oh and yes, I know I can almost buy a quality kitchen mixer at that price, but the kitchen mixer won't mix dough and then automatically keep it at just the right temp for rapid rising even if your kitchen is 65 °F in the winter, or let you throw a bunch of ingredients inside before bed and wake up to fresh loaf of bread that's just so delicious to eat hot with some butter melted over the top of the slice. ?
 
Oh, and for reference, we typically make about one loaf of bread per week, maybe one every 5 days, and pizza dough once or twice a week. (Homemade pizza is SO MUCH BETTER than any frozen pizza!)
 
I had the same model. Mine went kaput about 4 years ago and I've been using machines that had been collecting dust at my mom's and my brother's so I've put off looking for another. I expect since I don't like either of those machines, they'll last forever. However, when I do go for a new machine, the one thing I'll be checking is the bread pan size to make sure I end up with loaves more like homemade than strange poofy squares.
 
Following this thread, we dont make bread, but we love to make pizza and making the dough is not fun for us.
How do you usually make dough? By hand? I've kneaded dough by hand before and it is not fun!

So far we've just used the simple recipe included with our bread machine for pizza dough. Flour, water, oil, salt, sugar, yeast, maybe some dry milk. Measure and dump into the bread machine, hit "pizza dough", walk away and 55 minutes later it beeps to say it's done. Remove, roll out, top, throw into a 500 °F oven on a pre-heated pizza stone, cook for ten minutes, enjoy!

With the lack of high gluten floor and cold rising, I can't get the thin crust I'd prefer, but you can't beat just how quick and easy it is to make a homemade pizza like this. Once we finish moving (and get a new bread machine) I'm going to start experimenting with different recipes, slow rising in the fridge overnight, high gluten flour, etc. But I have a feeling we'll always keep the "one hour" pizza dough in the rotation, as the speed and ease cannot be beat.

Do you want a quick set and forget, or do you want something to mix the dough and then you'll let it rise somewhere else? My guess for you, if you don't want to make bread, that one of the cheaper $50-$75 models would be good for pizza dough. All bread machines should have a "dough" function that will knead the dough, then let it rise while keeping it nice and warm using the built-in heater. The cheaper ones almost universally have the smaller square pans, and I would guess they would mix better without parts of the pan having unmixed dough (when left unsupervised) than the rectangular, single paddle mixer in the Breadman Ultimate we have. Of course getting a model that offers replacement parts easily is a pro, if you are heavy pizza eaters, and this might not be available on the $50 models, or it might be limited time frames they are offered.

To be fair, this particular machine is pretty old. It was a gift to my mom when I was still a young teen (~15 years ago). She never used it much, I actually used it more than anyone in the family. After some period of use, it sat unused for much of its life until about a year and a half ago. The lack of replacement parts on a machine that old isn't too surprising I guess.

I had the same model. Mine went kaput about 4 years ago and I've been using machines that had been collecting dust at my mom's and my brother's so I've put off looking for another. I expect since I don't like either of those machines, they'll last forever. However, when I do go for a new machine, the one thing I'll be checking is the bread pan size to make sure I end up with loaves more like homemade than strange poofy squares.
How long did you have it and how much did you use it?

This machine makes fairly odd shaped loaves too, especially at the 2 lb setting, but certainly less funny than the loaves from smaller, square pans. I'm not certain the Zojirushi I'm eyeballing is any better than the Breadman Ultimate, but I would expect the double paddles mix better (and the Zorirushi is by no means the only rectangular machine with dual paddles, Breadman makes a "professional" model with dual paddles).

Also somewhat amusing is the Amazon bread machine best seller ranking for the top three: $54, $272, $58. You don't see that sort of price variation on top sellers all that often.
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You know what, I am going to give it another try. We have an old bread machine. Also has to be about 15 years old or so. Let’s see how that works. Really like making pizza at home and the mrs and I hate making dough.

I did get a baking steel for Christmas that I can throw on the Egg and get it real hot. It works really well with the dough we buy from Publix, but still would prefer to make it at home.
 
had one, it was good for starting out and especially for making dough. it died and I started using sour dough for everything. kneading is not as bad as it seems. I really prefer round/oval loaves baked on a stone, texture is so much better. if I was younger and had more energy and motivation I would be thinking about an outdoor wood fired baking oven.
 
How long did you have it and how much did you use it?

This machine makes fairly odd shaped loaves too, especially at the 2 lb setting, but certainly less funny than the loaves from smaller, square pans. I'm not certain the Zojirushi I'm eyeballing is any better than the Breadman Ultimate, but I would expect the double paddles mix better (and the Zorirushi is by no means the only rectangular machine with dual paddles, Breadman makes a "professional" model with dual paddles).

I discovered I messed up on which model died ... that's what I get for relying on my memory! I think it was a Regal. I also can't say how long I had it, but we were making bread at least once a week for several years. A belt gave out and we couldn't find a replacement.
 
A belt gave out and we couldn't find a replacement.
Rats. Pretty similar to me not being able to get a new pan anymore.

had one, it was good for starting out and especially for making dough. it died and I started using sour dough for everything. kneading is not as bad as it seems. I really prefer round/oval loaves baked on a stone, texture is so much better. if I was younger and had more energy and motivation I would be thinking about an outdoor wood fired baking oven.
I've kneaded by hand before. Problem is if I knead by hand, we would rarely have fresh homemade bread and pizza dough. LIke you said, it's not hard, but it is time consuming. If I'm spending that much time in the kitchen I'd like to be making something other than bread. :)

I should try round loaves baked on a stone though. I can still use a bread machine to mix the dough and let it rise, then take it out and bake it myself (if I'm not doing our typical overnight ready-for-breakfast loaf, where the bread machine really shines).
 
OK... You have obviously hit a nerve with me. I say put the money towards a good stand mixer if you don't have one and forget about bread makers. Making bread by hand is slightly more time consuming but the result is multiple orders of magnitude better. Respect the carbs!

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I should try round loaves baked on a stone though. I can still use a bread machine to mix the dough and let it rise, then take it out and bake it myself (if I'm not doing our typical overnight ready-for-breakfast loaf, where the bread machine really shines).


Pretty sure that is how I switched. I seem to recall the baking part of my machine quit first, so started baking in the oven. Then simple breads with no sugar added (sour dough) caught my cheap fancy and before I knew it I had a new pet - a 2 and then 3 year old starter culture. :geek:
 
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OK... You have obviously hit a nerve with me. I say put the money towards a good stand mixer if you don't have one and forget about bread makers. Making bread by hand is slightly more time consuming but the result is multiple orders of magnitude better. Respect the carbs!
I mean that is tempting, for sure. But I know myself. I don't think buying a mixer would be worth it unless I was already baking in an oven. Which I've thought of doing, but never yet have.

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Current bread machine pan bearing just barely hanging on, got another pizza crust out of it tonight. Won't work much longer though.
 
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We got a Breadman Ultimate TR2200 from my mom who didn't use it anymore, and for the past year or so we've been using it fairly regularily for making bread and pizza dough. Yesterday when I went to make pizza dough I noticed the shaft seemed bound up. I was able to free it and made the dough, but I noticed the shaft was loose, a sure sign of a worn bearing/bushing, and I noticed some black stuff on the dough near the mixer paddle, either grease or metal dust.

They no longer make parts for that model. While I can find new pans for $20 on eBay, they are all used, so who knows how long they will last.

I could also almost certainly repair it myself, but I don't really feel like doing that, as I'd have to source a bearing/bushing, plus the seal is worn and those run $20 for new ones.

New bread machines start at just $50 on Amazon, at roughly 4-4.2 stars, and run up what seems like the top of the line Zojirushi Virtuoso Plus at 4.5 stars (2500 ratings), but with a $270 price tag. I do think we want dual mixers, which cuts out the $50 models, as the single mixer usually leaves some unmixed flour on the sides of the pan, especially with a 1 lb-loaf, if you aren't around to scrap it down partway through the kneading cycle (such as an overnight run or you start it and run off to do some errands).

Anybody have thoughts on recommended models? I like buying quality things, especially if they last, so I'm leaning towards the Zojirushi. I'd especially like a brand that I know I'll be able to buy replacement pans, belts, or other parts for it a few years down the road, rather than chucking out (or trying to DIY repair) an otherwise perfectly functioning machine.

Oh and yes, I know I can almost buy a quality kitchen mixer at that price, but the kitchen mixer won't mix dough and then automatically keep it at just the right temp for rapid rising even if your kitchen is 65 °F in the winter, or let you throw a bunch of ingredients inside before bed and wake up to fresh loaf of bread that's just so delicious to eat hot with some butter melted over the top of the slice. ?
Don't know anything about bread machines but if you can take the old bearing to a good bearing retailer I'm pretty certain they can come up with a replacement.

Chris
 
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We had a bread machine.. its in the cupboard I think.. we got tired of the cylindrical loaves and then just used it to make the dough.. then when we seemed to stop using it when we got a decent mixer with a good dough hook. But I must admit, throwing the ingredients into the gizmo for dough and making cinnamon rolls in the morning was pretty nice, and fattening....
SO...
I know this is a bit off topic... But I am starting to think of a kitchen remodel. And I am seriously thinking of putting in an oven hearth for baking breads, flat bread meals, oh and Pizza too. etc. Hey I can dream can't I.?
 
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