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    Pool Builder Wars

    There is a bit of a "pool" war going on in the SA area. I have three pool builders bidding substantially for my business.

    The first final offer from pool builder one:

    14x27; 284 sqft; 71' perimeter; 3ft to 5ft depth
    P4 Electronic controller and chlorine generator with SWG
    Polaris 280 pressure vacuum with booster pump
    5x8 sun deck
    6' inpool bench
    Two deck jets
    12" raised pool with 18" raised back beam wall (18" wide)
    flagstone (Quartzite) coping, walls and caps all sealed
    80 sq feet Rainbow (exposed aggregate) decking with 12' linear flagstone steps up to deck
    Krystal Crete mini-pebble plaster
    425 sq foot hayward cartridge filter and 3 Hp 2 speed hayward circulation pump
    Rock excavation included in price


    Then pool builder 2 came back with this:

    17’ by 28’; 75 ft perimeter; 333 sqft, 10,600 gallons;
    3-deck jets, 3- hydro therapy jets
    (1) Hayward 2 Horsepower, 2 Speed
    (1) Hayward pump Horsepower TBD to run therapy jets on separate pump
    (1) Hayward 60 sqft D.E
    (1) Goldline Salt system
    (1) Polaris 280 w/ booster pump
    (1) Hayward Aqua-Pod w/ P4 controller
    Pebble Tech - Pebble sheen (Black Onyx)
    12" raised pool with 18" raised back beam wall (16" wide coping)
    Excavation, forming and sand bagging is included in the pool base price. Rock excavation is included
    1/2” Rebar tied on 10” Centers with a four bar beam and additional bars at all high stress areas if required.
    144 sqft decking
    All Flagstone raised walls, decking, topping and coating sealed with 40sk
    1/4 point down of my loan rate
    5x8 sundeck
    two in pool benches

    $39,500.00


    So I said awesome I'll take it and told the other two pool builders that I had made a decision and thank you very much...signed a contract with a "three day out with no penalty clause" .......and....a day later the third builder came back with this:

    exact same deal except:
    4 therapy jets
    Jandy equipment except for SWG which is the same
    Polaris 380 cleaner
    $37,500

    So here I sit........having to choose.........Am I missing something ..... is there something going on in the industry or are they so high in price that they can afford to keep undercutting each other?
    17’ by 28’ - 10,600 gallons; IG
    Hayward 60 sqft D.E.
    Hayward 2 Horsepower, 2 Speed
    Goldline Salt system
    Pebble Tech - Pebble sheen (Turtle Bay)
    12" raised pool with 18" raised back beam wall

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    Re: Pool Builder Wars

    The economy is very weak in many areas and pools are one of the first things people stop buying when they are short on money. Many builders are starting to get very interested in any chance at getting work.

    At this point I would think more about the reputation of references of the two builders than the specific packages. If one of them has better references then that is much more important than $2,000.
    19K gal, vinyl, 1/2 HP WhisperFlo pump, 200 sqft cartridge filter, AutoPilot Digital SWG, Dolphin Dynamic cleaning robot
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    Re: Pool Builder Wars

    Agree with Jason.

    Call MANY past customers... customer satisfaction is EVERYTHING in this project.

    $2000 ain't nuthin when your sitting with a mess in your backyard, months and months later.

    Good luck with your decision.

    Steve
    18,000 gallon gunite free form, with spa, 4x160, EasyTouch, SWCG, Pentair cartr filter, Colorlogic lights.

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    Re: Pool Builder Wars

    Thanks...I did that and both pool builders had excellent reputations. One of the major differences about the way they build their pools was one plumbs under the pool. That made me a bit nervous because even though the chance of a pvc busting or leaking was low if it did occur you would have to open up the pool to fix it.......so I went with the other pool builder after I convinced him to give me knock another 600 off the price I ended up with this:

    17’ by 28’; 75 ft perimeter; 333 sqft, 10,600 gallons;
    3-deck jets, 3- hydro therapy jets
    (1) Hayward 2 Horsepower, 2 Speed
    (1) Hayward pump Horsepower TBD to run therapy jets on separate pump
    (1) Hayward 60 sqft D.E
    (1) Goldline Salt system
    (1) Polaris 280 w/ booster pump
    (1) Hayward Aqua-Pod w/ P4 controller
    Pebble Tech - Pebble sheen (Black Onyx)
    12" raised pool with 18" raised back beam wall (16" wide coping)
    Excavation, forming and sand bagging is included in the pool base price. Rock excavation is included
    1/2” Rebar tied on 10” Centers with a four bar beam and additional bars at all high stress areas if required.
    144 sqft decking
    All Flagstone on raised walls, decking, topping and coping sealed with 40sk sealant
    1/4 point down of my loan rate ($450 value and considerable interest savings over life of loan)
    5x8 sundeck
    two in pool benches

    $39,800.

    Stake out is next week.....I'll take pictures
    17’ by 28’ - 10,600 gallons; IG
    Hayward 60 sqft D.E.
    Hayward 2 Horsepower, 2 Speed
    Goldline Salt system
    Pebble Tech - Pebble sheen (Turtle Bay)
    12" raised pool with 18" raised back beam wall

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    Re: Pool Builder Wars

    Pictures are coming ..................
    17’ by 28’ - 10,600 gallons; IG
    Hayward 60 sqft D.E.
    Hayward 2 Horsepower, 2 Speed
    Goldline Salt system
    Pebble Tech - Pebble sheen (Turtle Bay)
    12" raised pool with 18" raised back beam wall

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    Re: Pool Builder Wars

    This is where its going............
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    17’ by 28’ - 10,600 gallons; IG
    Hayward 60 sqft D.E.
    Hayward 2 Horsepower, 2 Speed
    Goldline Salt system
    Pebble Tech - Pebble sheen (Turtle Bay)
    12" raised pool with 18" raised back beam wall

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    Re: Pool Builder Wars

    Gotta ask.... Where is the SA area?
    Hotrod30

    20 X 40 foot vinyl Borates and Salt Pool
    Rolachem Chlorine Feeder
    Hayward 27 inch sand filter with 80 lbs of pea gravel
    Jacuzzi Splash Pak SP55 DE filter in parallel
    Pentair VF3050 pump

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    Re: Pool Builder Wars

    Quote Originally Posted by Hotrod30
    Gotta ask.... Where is the SA area?
    I'm guessing San Antonio....

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