Trichlor tablet composition

[Pool_Medic]

This entire hijack discussion was split off of THIS thread. jblizzle

Not all pucks are created the same. Lots of major retailers force their manufacturer to get the cost down to x so they can retail at y. Force a supplier to lower his wholesale and he will cheapen somewhere.

 

[Donldson]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

Not all pucks are created the same. Lots of major retailers force their manufacturer to get the cost down to x so they can retail at y. Force a supplier to lower his wholesale and he will cheapen somewhere.

Trichlor is trichlor. The chemical composition of it does not change, 10ppm FC and 6ppm CYA. This is a constant, a chemical certainty.

 

[Pool_Medic]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

You might want to look into composition of pucks Donaldson, not all are created equally, fillers used in cheaper ones.

 

[Donldson]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

You might want to look into composition of pucks Donaldson, not all are created equally, fillers used in cheaper ones.

Sigh... This is like those people who get asked whether 10 lbs of feathers or 10 lbs of steel weighs more and goes on and on about how the steel has to weigh more.

Fillers don't matter, trichlor is trichlor. It doesn't matter if a puck is 100% trichlor or 50% trichlor, for every 10 ppm FC added 6 ppm CYA will be added. You just need more of the cheaper (I'm using that term lightly as the pure trichlor tablets are usually cheaper) ones to get the same amount of trichlor. But the equation always comes out the same. 1 ounce of trichlor is 1 ounce of trichlor.

 

[Pool_Medic]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

Once again, you miss the point. More fillers reduce active ingredients. Commonly done in manufacturing.

 

[Donldson]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

That's your point?

How does that possibly change anything I have said? You are going on and on about this yet it does not change anything about the chemistry of trichlor or how it introduces CYA and FC.

Why don't you give some examples. Show some SDS information instead of some nebulous "commonly done in manufacturing" statements.

 

[cfherrman]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

Ok let's say the tab your talking about is 50% filler

You now need two tabs instead if one

You still add the same FC and cya in the pool

 

[Pool_Medic]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

Costco and Sams club are two that have driven the manufacturers to get their costs down, these cheap pucks contain less trichlor and more inert fillers. While true that 10 ppm gets 6 ppm cya, the total chlorine available is actually less in these cheap pucks. The trichlor ranges from 99% to 70%

i was in no way saying pucks are good, just that not all pucks are created equal.

 

[cfherrman]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

Dude you don't get it, uf it's 70% triclor, you a
Hve to use more than one puck for the same result

Over

 

[kairus00]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

Costco and Sams club are two that have driven the manufacturers to get their costs down, these cheap pucks contain less trichlor and more inert fillers. While true that 10 ppm gets 6 ppm cya, the total chlorine available is actually less in these cheap pucks. The trichlor ranges from 99% to 70%

i was in no way saying pucks are good, just that not all pucks are created equal.

The fillers are not the problem with buildup of CYA. Triclor is C₃Cl₃N₃O_3. Cyanuric acid is C₃N₃O₃H₃ - you are going to get the same ratio of chlorine and cyanuric acid no matter how much trichlor is in the puck. It will be the same every time, about 10:6 ratio. Doesn't matter if it's 10PPM of chlorine, 1PPM of chlorine, or 1,000ppm of chlorine, the ratio remains the same.

10PPM of chlorine is going to give you 6PPM of CYA.

1PPM of chlorine is going to give you 0.6PPM of CYA.

1,000PPM of chlorine is going to give you 600PPM of CYA.

The problem with the pucks isn't the amount of chlorine you're getting for the money, it's the fact that you are adding CYA at a high ratio.

 

[JasonJoel]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

Two different points being made.

Pucks are always bad because of cya addition. That is always true, no matter what the puck composition is.

Cheap pucks are even worse because it ends up COSTING more too, because you need more pucks to get the same amount of chlorine.

Got it?? Two separate ways that pucks can be bad.

 

[Donldson]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

But nobody ever asked for that second point. The question posed was whether a particular brand of pucks increase CYA. This was answered. In The Swim brand pucks are 99% trichlor. So why the second point was even brought up is beyond me as it had absolutely nothing to do with the question asked. Trichlor is trichlor, stating that "some pucks have more trichlor than others" was not very useful to the discussion. If someone asked whether liquid chlorine has salt in it the answer would not be "some liquid chlorine is only 6% while some is 12.5%".

And for the record, as we are off the rails with no sign of returning to them, the price of trichlor rarely is indicative of quality. ProTeam, a quality name brand, sells both 99% pure trichlor tablets and 91.5% trichlor/5% disodium biborate pentahydrate tablets. Both are quality products, as far as tablets are concerned, but the pure ones cost less because the mixture ones are sold as premium ones that add borates to the pool. Unless you are going to AliExpress for tablets you are going to get ones that are properly labeled and contain the amount of trichlor it says.

 

[cfherrman]

Re: In the Swim Chlorine Tabs

It's like saying that a hamburger that is 30% paper is the same nutritional value as one without