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We bought a pvc one from Leslie's and it's a piece of junk. Pipe is not heavy enough and is warped after 3 weeks. If you build one (which I guess is what we'll do next) make sure to use heavy thick walled pvc pipe. Glad to know about the frontgate one as that was my next one to try! gaye

First I have to ask... did you ever see a plan/picture of the builders design? If so, did you sign that plan and date it along with the builder? We did get pictures but supposedly the grotto can't be portrayed very well on the program --and of course there is no way what they have done can...

Hi, This is my 1st post and I really need some help. Long story short-signed contract 9/30/06---started 4 1/2 months late on 5-18-07. So far the have left off the steps next to the spa, left out the leaf/debris trapper system, cut the phone line, run over and broke the skimmer (thats in...