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Thank you for the breakdown poolman. Although the concept of pushing the debris into a bag rather than sucking them up certainly seems "better", right now I'm leaning towards the $300 Kreepy Krauly since I do have an in-line filter on the suction hose and don't mind dumping that and the...

Math checks out!

Hey ajw, thanks for the suggestion - pressure side cleaners make the most sense to me in concept, but we don't have a booster pump in place at the moment. What's the total investment on one of those look like these days? Pump + labor?

Hey SoDel, thanks for the suggestion - I'm definitely interested in the concept of catching these things before they hit the pool bottom. Are you solely relying on the pool pump inlet skimmer with a plastic basket, or do you have one of those robots that cruises the surface as well?

Hey poolman, thanks for possible reality check, hah! Our issue is the length & strength of the long pine needles we have here in Central FL (8 - 12 inches), and we're surrounded so we've got needles in the pool probably 80% of the year or more (300+ days for real context). The issue with the...

What did your search lead you to? I'm also frustrated with a MX8 with a lot of pine needles and prefer a suction cleaner