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Also, have you tried to negotiate with your PB and patio guys after they submitted their initial bids? Seems like these guys are so busy now that they might not entertain much negotiation, but I have to imagine they build some of it into their price expecting some negotiation. Curious as to what...

Has anyone built out a sand pit in their backyard? Curious as to what you've done to minimize impact of the rain on the sandy area. Is there a specific type of sand that you use that dries faster than play sand?

Thanks @Sollace , I just messaged him. Will see if he responds. Appreciate you posting the thread.

Lol...came across this video as I was researching mood lighting. This would look bad a** above the sunken lounge changing color to the music! Add in a smoke machine and boom! My backyard rave is in full effect!

Also, has anyone had custom sized outdoor cushions made? Curious on costs. I want to maximize the seating inside the sunken lounge. Sure, I can have the PB build the mote and then I can add 2 and 3 seater sofas in there, but it will not maximize my seating. Instead, I'd like to see if the PB or...

Has anyone installed a gobo projecting into their pool (see pic)? I'm thinking of adding one of these to project a C (for my last name) into the pool. Since I will have the sunken lounge and kitchen right in front of the pool and covered by a pavilion, I'm thinking of fixing the gobo to the...

Thanks @trivetman. And yes, you're welcome to come by with the fam when it's all done. What good is building it out if I can't enjoy it with people? :) Now only If I can find a PB to actually give me the time of day to work through the finer details. They are all so busy!

@Dirk I loved ModernCha's spa, but how is that different than a regular built-in hot tub that the PBs install in terms of comfort? His seems to have the same sort of seating, but it definitely looks beautiful.

@Dirk thanks for adding that thread. @PCR , great questions and they all make sense re: what other pool features do I want? Whereas many others make the pool their main focus (and spend most of their budget here), I am building out the backyard more for what I think I personally will enjoy...

Thanks Jimmy. But yes, I need a gunite pool because of the shape I want to create. Are you in Michigan? Anyone you or anyone else can recommend who does good gunite work?

Hello Everyone, I live in Michigan. I have a pool builder who just submitted his estimate to build a 30x15 gunite pool and 8x8 spa. His quote: - 30x15 gunite pool: $78,895 Equipment 333k btu H/E heater Variable Speed H/E pump Pentair Automation IC40 Salt Chlorine Generator Triton sand filter...

Are you talking about drains in the sunken lounge area or in the pool?

PCR, thanks for posting the link. I read a few of the posts, and will read through it in the coming day or two. Question to everyone here, is there a thread that collates all the "tips" for building a pool. I was reading through PCR's link above and it mentions things like "Thinking ahead on...

Absolutely! Although, after all these considerations, if I don't build, it, will you still be my BFF? ;-)

Thanks JJ and Dirk. JJ, that circular thing is the hot tub. I have to raise it in my sketch as it's too low into the ground, but that area is where the hot tub will go.

JJ, yes, I was going to have a simple folding projection screen and projector combo there for kids to watch a movie at night. I plan on putting a TV in the kitchen area for adults to watch sports.

Darin, can you please elaborate? Do you mean extend the rain curtain into the kitchen area?

Dirk, I like the idea of keeping that area shallow and then there is a drop into pool area. The left side of the pool in my sketches would be shallow and the right side (by the kitchen) would be the deep end, so that might work since the seating area might be 2 feet deep or thereabouts, making...

Thanks JJ and Dirk. JJ, that circular thing is the hot tub. I have to raise it in my sketch as it's too low into the ground, but that area is where the hot tub will go. If there are no good options for winterizing and still using the area, I have to contemplate if it's still worth it for the...

Thanks Dirk. Really appreciate all the guidance and input. I don't know the first thing about putting a pool in I'll admit. I never had a pool growing up. I'm educating myself on all the different facets by doing a lot of reading (especially articles on this site), which is why it's so great...

Thanks JJ for your input and ideas. Yes, it's not something I see every day, so it's definitely unique from that perspective, which I like. In discussions with builders on considerations and costs, so will decide once I have had more time to think through some of the things we are discussing...

Here is a sketch that I did to think through my design and how I would incorporate it in my backyard. Thinking of separating the seating area from the pool area with a rain curtain so that guests/kids stay "on the other side" of this seating area in the pool. Again, just an initial idea that I'm...

Hi all. Thanks for the replies. I should have clarified in my original post that that pic that I posted was just to socialize the concept of this sunken lounge, not to say that that is how big my pool would be. My pool would be much larger and this seating feature would just be a part of the...