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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Spoke with the Jack's Magic rep and he has advised me to keep the PH at 7.2 and apply 1.5 qts (for a 15K pool) to the water and brush frequently. He is currently planning on coming out to check out the progress next week and see what can be done from here. The current thinking is this will help...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    I have called and emailed Jack's Magic and they told me the "area support rep" would be in touch with me likely in the next 24 hours. Hopefully, he will have some thoughts on the best way to proceed. I would suspect combining with zero alkalinity may be the best idea as the directions do say...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Test 1: Iron, cobalt, and spot etching Test 2: cooper and scaling Both combined got best reaction (number 2 then number 1).
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Sorry for the long delay. I had to order the stain ID kit since there were not any locally and then get the chemistry right. So here is where we stand: I elevated the chlorine to about 40ppm and then let it naturally lower over the course of 2 weeks. This lightened the stains, but did not get...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    That settles it. I will try that this week before committing to something harmful like zero alkilinity.
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    I am happy to attempt a stain remover option if you think that is worth it before I go all Dante's Peak and turn my pool into a boat eating lake of acid. Do you think something like Jack's Magic is a better attempt first?
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Nope wasn't that.
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    I thought that was zero alkalinity? Also, if I use my spot thing with a cup of muriatic acid and leave it on the stain for several minutes it disappears and does not return. See pictures where there are spots without a stain. Those are from leaving a chlorine puck on the stain for like 24 hours...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Ohh good question. I actually think ozonator. It was a long bar on top of my pool controller. It did not pump water through it so I am thinking Ozonator now that you said it?
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    I can get a picture later today, but there was at one point an ionizer. It was broken when I moved in, so I removed it. This stain has been in the pool as long as I have been here.
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Well lucky for me, my heater froze during the Texas government imposed power outage. As such, it is by-passed all together since the parts are unlikely to become available and I have not replaced it. Given this, the metal that I can think of is: 1) Salt cell 2) Pool light 3) Hot tub light 4) The...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Yeah, I am not draining my pool this season. Let's see if we can get there on the Jack's Magic. I have run a metal test on the water a couple years ago and there was no real metal in the water. If I had to guess, the previous owners were using some Phosphate remover that they shouldn't have, or...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Ended up with enough bleach to reach 41 ppm. While higher than I need to SLAM, I brushed it 4 times last night and once this morning and still looks the same. It doesn't even look lighter. It is supposed to be cloudy today so I would expect the chlorine levels to remain high for a while. I will...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Will do. I have been over 10 ppm for 4 days and haven't seen a change. I am hoping that pushing it this much higher and adding a lot of brushing will result in goodness. If it doesn't, I am out less than $40 (Walmart bleach was on sale) and on the plus side, I didn't have to go wait in the...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Well I just poured in all the bleach I had left. It should put me at close to 50ppm on Chlorine. I am going to run the pump for a half hour to stir and then shut it down, check the FC, and brush it. I will brush it every couple hours until bed. Then let it settle over night and then in the...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    I have 7 gallons of bleach and one bag of powder. I could just go crazy and dump it all in tonight and see what it looks like in the morning. Also, since chlorine settles to the bottom, I suppose I could run the pump for 30 minutes and then turn it off so hopefully it settles to the stain...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Yes, Living in Texas, I run my pool year round to maintain it. However, the power outage caused some pipes to break and I was stuck for a month waiting for parts. During that time, my pool got really bad for me with Algae growth and leaves in the bottom of the pool. To get it back up, I...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    I haven't done a metal test yet. I can do that, but I was thrown off by the effect that Chlorine has had on the stains and the fact that they don't come back. I have tried asorbic acid (I mislabeled it in the post and fixed it now). The tabs rubbed on it had no effect. A bunch of ground up...
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    This spring I will finally conquer this stain

    Since getting the house, I have had a large stain in the bottom of my gunite pool. It is large and kind of cloud shaped and dark brown. The stain has not changed size or color over the years except where I have attempted to treat said stain. Previous owners did not do a good job of maintaining...
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    Pentair Superflo VS connected to iAqualink RS 8

    Ok, so I cleaned it up. Those were old wires capped off before I ever opened it. So I removed them. The black still connected, is jumping power from a relay to another, so I left it. The pump control wire is getting 5 volt DC. The relay is turning on and off without issue. The whole...
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    Pentair Superflo VS connected to iAqualink RS 8

    I do have a multimeter and will check the DC voltage after work today. In the pic you can see the relay for "filter pump" the only thing I changed at install was to connect the com wires (red and off pink color), they are a little burned looking on the tip because I did not have a small enough...
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    Pentair Superflo VS connected to iAqualink RS 8

    I recently had to upgrade my pump and went with the Superflo VS. The VS has it's own control for operations, so it simplified my life some, but I wanted to keep the ability to turn on the cleaner or hottub on demand (remotely) as I was able to do with the iAqualink and the old "dumb" single...