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  1. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    BTW, we are on municipal sewer and water service. Updates: We did in fact switch to a new PB, and placed a deposit with them. Still waiting on the promised refund of our deposit from the fired PB. Our new construction timeframe is late July. We had "them" come out and mark the utilities...
  2. ELMitz

    Choosing a PB near Indianapolis

    Something to think about... we are in southern Indiana and doing a vinyl pool. You can totally customize steps, benches and tanning ledges with a vinyl pool. Basically anything you can think up (within reason) can be done with a vinyl liner pool by an experienced PB.
  3. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    Based on the calculator here: Pool Heater Sizing Calculator | Jandy Pro Series it appears to be more than adequate. Of course, my interpretation of the results and required data could be way off...
  4. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    Let's hope he's not as jerk'ish about it or I may be firing another PB... :D Even with the pool we will still have a sizable grassy area for the kids to play (especially by in-the-city standards). That is one reason we are not that interested in the pool house construction right away. We...
  5. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    That is almost exactly what the PB said...
  6. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    While we like the mirrored aesthetic of the inspiration photo, you are correct that it significantly reduces the swimmable area. By elongating the pool from 40' to 44' and putting the stair & shelf(shelves) along the shallow end instead of the side, we free that space up for fun (we have six...
  7. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    For your viewing pleasure. This is a bid from another vendor -- identifying features redacted to protect the innocent... I'd be curious what your opinions are on both the equipment, contract and the drawings of the pool.
  8. ELMitz

    Why so much?

    Supply/demand curve, customer demographics, seasonality, location, etc... your/my pool project would likely be wildly variable due to these issues... same reason Apple charges >$900 for an iPhone with $230 worth of individual components: because they can...
  9. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    Update: I received the contract from the builder today. Nowhere in the contract did they list any of the specific equipment they would be using just very generic descriptions. The contract also did not include any drawings, plumbing descriptions, etc. When I called him and asked for more...
  10. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    I like the ideas Joanniern, thanks!
  11. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    Good advice! No, there are five PB in our market: One specializing in fiberglass pools and the remaining four all do vinyl -- one of those does polymer walled the other three steel walled. After interviewing and reference checking we went with one of the steel walled contractors. Though the...
  12. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    I have seen numerable examples of tanning shelves in vinyl pools so I know they are an option. What I have not seen are umbrella sleeves nor bubblers in them. I can easily envision potential issues with the installation of both. I too have wondered about putting chairs in the pool on the vinyl.
  13. ELMitz

    Contractor Messed Up

    Wow, this sounds horrible! :roll: I hope you get a speedy and livable solution. I'm not an attorney, but it seems you have a clear contract issue that could potentially require them to redo the pool. I'd suggest you get your attorney immediately involved. Good luck!
  14. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    Thank you! :D Not as of now. The PB never mentioned even the option. I am generally over-the-top with my reliance on technology so I am very open to this concept. Thanks! I'll discuss it with the PB. What features does the automation get you? Or said another way, what is the benefit to...
  15. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    I agree completely. I wish I could find some specific dimensional guidance on this issue, but the PBs we have met with have not been very helpful. I'm hoping somebody here can give me some specific guidance based on their similar experiences. Again, my thoughts exactly! Thanks! And I...
  16. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    I'm just not sure if there are any bubblers that can be reliably installed and work well in a vinyl pool? It seems that all the ones I see from Hayward mention only gunnite installation...
  17. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    Thank you so much! I like that idea! Assuming we use the width of the pool (20') I'm thinking two 7' wide shelves separated by 6' wide stairs? I've also thought it might be cool to put some bubblers in the floors of the shelves as well as umbrella sleeve. Seems kids might have fun playing...
  18. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    They will go on a pad here: If we were building the pool house immediately then the equipment would go in there, but alas, I have not hit the Powerball, yet... The location selected is secluded, near no windows or doors and shielded from street view by vegetation and fence. Thanks for your...
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  20. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    Thank you! I believe what you have described and recommended is exactly what we are getting: Underguide with Flush-Deck lid. Here is a sample photo: Am I correct in thinking that we are on the "same page?" If not, help me out because what you describe and what this photo details are exactly...
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  23. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    Thank you, the more I've stared at these options the more I realize how much I like the angled pool. One important reason is that you can see from the foyer through a formal sitting area's windows and through our screened in porch directly onto the area where the pool will live. This is the view...
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  28. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    Thanks for the kind words! I too am looking forward to watching this build... terrifying and exhilirating rarely so perfectly describe a single process.
  29. ELMitz

    Hoosier Family's Pool Adventure: Planning and Building Thread

    Here is the basic "design-feel" we are striving for: We hope to find a stamped concrete deck that can closely mimic this beautiful Pennsylvania Blue Stone paver patio, as the stone is way out of our budget for this project. We will also not have a hot-tub built in to the patio like that...