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    new heat pump - best practice?

    the problem is we spent a lot of money on the safety cover and the guy told us there would be very little difference in heat retention between that and the solar cover that was already on the pool. We obviously bought the new cover for the safety benefits as we have young children. I might...
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    new heat pump - best practice?

    thanks for the reply! We have an expensive thermal safety cover (aquamatic ez cover) which I've noticed on sunny days actually leads to the temperature increasing by a degree or so, so I definitely leave that on 100% of the time when not in use. It's more over night I was a bit concerned about...
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    new heat pump - best practice?

    Hi all, I'm in the UK and have a 20x10 6000 galon outdoor pool. We recently did away with our 9kw electric heater and bought a Polytropic Master M heat pump. We absolutely love it and it has transformed how often we use the pool. However now that summer is here in the UK whenever the outdoor...
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    well, a few leaks at some of the solvent weld joins due to not twisting or champhering the pipe however, I have to say, the heat pump is one of my best investments to date. the 14kw polytropic heat pump seems to heat at the same speed as my 9kw electric heater but at a quarter of the price. It...
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    Hi guys, so, the big install is this saturday. I have (I think) all of the required pipework, bends, primer and glue so wish me luck. Before I go making a horrible mistake I just wanted to confirm I'm doing the correct thing to put the heat pump directly before the existing heater? There is a...
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    Per hour.. noted. haha yeah I've lowered my expectations to CoP of 4 after hearing what people have said. Still seems like a very good investment to me. Not being as fortunate with the weather as you i'd more likely heat it during the day (because of air temp) and around the time i'm going to...
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    So the lower the psi the higher the flow rate? Thank goodness for that. I went back through your post and saw that if 20psi is 5m3/sec and wrongly assumed that 14psi would be around 4m3/sec. I can't express how grateful I am I feel so good knowing there is such a wealth of information...
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    Sorry you're right it was 14 psi. How does that translate? Is it still a worry that it appears to be the same before and after a backwash?
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    I don't think this is going to be what you (and therefore I) want to hear.. but yes when off the needle is on 0. Then up to 14 during use. During a backwash its down to 10.5 and then after a 20 second backwash and 10 second rinse (basically until the water in the sight glass was running clear)...
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    Thank you needsajet the filter says max 6m3/hr on the label and the guague you mention reads 14bar I couldn't find the actual flow rate of the pump. I assume it's between 5 and 8 m3/hr?
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    I don't even know what equipment pad means. I'm such an amateur. On mobile site at the moment so cant upload pics of it is it the pump says.. 5p2rc-1 H max 18m P1 640w Ip x5 T max 52 degree c Mot Ph 1 (1 phase)
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    This is where I come unstuck. I can't see a model number on the multiport valve (am I looking at the right part?) Here are some photos of my setup
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    Thanks needsajet. The heat pump requires 5-8 m3/hr but I'm struggling finding a model number for my pump to check this. On the multiport valve it says Midas but that's as much info as I can get.. Do you think with a 6000 galon pool I'll have a pump that supplies between 5-8 m3/hr ?
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    good point. Ok I think option 2 is definitely the way to go. The garden is on a downward incline so unless I stick the heat pump on a high shelf which will be difficult, it means the pipes will drop down (and obviously go up hill on the return) about 1m in height. I assume this won't cause an...
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    Ok guys so I've decided on the 14kw Polytropic heat pump. I just need to decide location now.. Your thoughts? Option 1 - outside pool shed right next to the pump but in clear view of every window in the house. Option 2 - at the other end of the shed 8 meters away but hidden nicely away...
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    Would you say its better or worse than a floating bubble cover?
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    oops, sorry. Here. Affordable Pool Cover | Budget Pool Cover |EZ Covers | Aquamatic - - - Updated - - - We dont have any link between our boiler/gas central heating system and our pool though.. so no good for me? or have I misunderstood what it is?
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    This is the cover we have. Not sure about its solar properties compared to the old bubble cover (maybe one of you can give me your thoughts on that) but we needed something safe as we have young kids.
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    thanks guys, seems like a sensible investment. Even if the 14kw only outputs 9kw (and I'd expect it to hopefully be nearer 12kw based on what you have all said) and it takes just as long, the 1/4 of the price is what attracts me. I love the idea of removing it in the winter (I guess I could...
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    Heat pump vs electric heater for a UK pool

    Hi all I have a 6000 galon outdoor pool in the uk used May-Sep (temps between 17-25 celcius) Currently we have a 9kw heater which on first heat up this year took 48hrs (and cost me £60) to heat up. An air conditioning engineer friend came round the other day (and randomly went in the 20 degree...
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    First Summer as a pool owner - struggling to get up to temperature

    The cover does touch the water for about 90% of its length, it's only at each end that it lifts up. Oh yes I'd never consider leaving it uncovered at night! Well we went in today after 36 hours heating. The temp was 20 degrees c. It was horrible!! It's now up to 23 (10pm here) and I'm...
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    First Summer as a pool owner - struggling to get up to temperature

    That's one thing we were unsure about.. Is that definite for all covers? We have a thick vinyl cover (aquamatic ez cover) Will the heat lost through evaporation not be greater than the solar heat gained? I assume we should only leave it open on sunny days too? Any more info on this greatly...
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    First Summer as a pool owner - struggling to get up to temperature

    Well, we've gone from 14c to 18c overnight (9 hours) so by those calculations total time to 26c will be 36hrs. (£44...eek) We are on a flat rate electricity terrific at the moment. The previous owners were on economy 7 paying half price over night when they used to heat the pool. We are...
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    First Summer as a pool owner - struggling to get up to temperature

    Oh my word. 50 hours?! OK, is this just the initial heat at the start of the summer? Once I'm up to temperature if I keep the cover on when not in use surely it wouldn't drop back down to tap temperature very quickly? Please tell me it wouldn't.. I have a south facing garden with lots of...
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    First Summer as a pool owner - struggling to get up to temperature

    Hi all. I'm new to the forum and I've heard great things about it! We moved in Sep 2015 and have a 20x10 6000 galon outdoor pool with a 9kw electric heater. I think it is the 9kw version of this: In-Line+ Swimming Pool Heater As we have kids we paid in the winter to have the bubble solar cover...