VS / VFD Pump & Flickering LED lights

aquacruise

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May 16, 2025
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Just installed a new Pentair Superflo VST and immediately noticed all LED lights in the main house flicker when the pump is on. I've read about this issue several places and understand it's due to harmonic distortion from cheap VFD circuit back-feeding into the supply. Some say it's to do with cheap quality LEDs but I wanted to check this claim for myself (since mine aren't cheap LEDs!) So I hooked up a scope to the main load center and when the pump is running at full rpm the below pic shows the added noise on the bottom half of the sinewave of the 60Hz / 230V supply. Scale on scope is 20V per division so roughly 40V peak-peak noise - which is quite frankly ridiculous, regardless of high much you spend on LEDs, they are going to flicker with 40V noise @ 300-400Hz!! I am wondering if anyone has come up with a solution to this? I am looking at line reactor filters (e.g. LR2-21P0-1PH-A) to connect just before the supply, or possibly just an isolation transformer (not sure how effective it will be). Anyone tried this or have any insights? Thanks.

(P.S. before anyone asks, yes the wiring is 100%, no neutral or earthing issues, correct gauge wiring, separate subpanel, etc. In fact to double test, I switched it over to the old 2hp "on/off" style pump and the lights don't even blip when the pump kicks in with over 35amps of in-rush current! So this is definitely a VFD issue. Edit by Jim R.
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AC,

I removed the last sentence in your post, as that is not how our site works... Everything else you said is perfectly fine.

That said, until recently I had three pools that all had Pentair VS pumps.. The three different houses all had plenty of LED lights, cheap and other wise.. None of the houses had any flickering at all..

This complaint is not one that I have seen here before, so it must not be very common.. :scratch:

Not sure if you just got a bad pump, or your electrical gird is different in some way, or???

In any case, let's see if any of our members have seen this same issue.

Thanks,

Jim R.
 
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AC,

I removed the last sentence in your post, as that is not how our site works... Everything else you said is perfectly fine.

That said, until recently I had three pools that all had Pentair VS pumps.. The three different houses all had plenty of LED lights, cheap and other wise.. None of the houses had any flickering at all..

This complaint is not one that I have seen here before, so it must not be very common.. :scratch:

Not sure if you just got a bad pump, or your electrical gird is different in some way, or???

In any case, let's see if any of our members have seen this same issue.

Thanks,

Jim R.
Thanks Jim. Sorry about that, and edit accepted and justified.

So this issue relates to VFD, and the level of harmonic distortion that VFDs produce that feeds back to supply side. Depends on the quality of the VFD circuits I am told. But I have also reached out to Pentair in case it is faulty VFD filter on my particular unit and not related to this unit in particular (I own it, so not going to denigrate it too much).

Be keen to hear from anyone else who might have similar experience.
 
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AC,

I removed the last sentence in your post, as that is not how our site works... Everything else you said is perfectly fine.

That said, until recently I had three pools that all had Pentair VS pumps.. The three different houses all had plenty of LED lights, cheap and other wise.. None of the houses had any flickering at all..

This complaint is not one that I have seen here before, so it must not be very common.. :scratch:

Not sure if you just got a bad pump, or your electrical gird is different in some way, or???

In any case, let's see if any of our members have seen this same issue.

Thanks,

Jim R.
This post here Whole house power question touches on the issue, some mention about isolation transformers and also line filters. Regarding the Pentair Intelliflo VS pump, but one would imagine that they use similar VFD circuitry