pool lighting

Jangus

Member
Apr 7, 2019
21
Denison TX
Pool Size
15000
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
CircuPool RJ-30
Hi,
I have two Spectrum 360 lights in my pool. They are controlled by a Pentair Smart touch. One made it about 2 yrs, the other 5 yrs. At app $500 each, I am wary of purchasing another. I am handy and can install new lighting. My problem is not knowing how they are controlled. Does anyone have a good recommendation for a reliable, color changing LED pool light? There is a niche installed in the pool.
 
Does anyone have a good recommendation for a reliable, color changing LED pool light?

No color-changing LED lights have demonstrated long-term reliability. Most are too new to the market to judge.

Manufacturers keep coming out with new generations of LED lights, claiming they are improved. Time will tell.

 
No color-changing LED lights have demonstrated long-term reliability. Most are too new to the market to judge.

Manufacturers keep coming out with new generations of LED lights, claiming they are improved. Time will tell.

Thank you! That is discouraging news. What about a plain white LED that is reliable and will fit in my niche? I really hate to pay $500 per light.
 
Thank you! That is discouraging news. What about a plain white LED that is reliable and will fit in my niche? I really hate to pay $500 per light.
We hear very few reliability reports on white LED lights to know of any going strong after many years.
 
I think many or most of us here agree with @ajw22 about the led reliability. Folks discuss “years of service” but I think specifying the “hours of use” is the real measure. I tend to feel graced if I get more than 10,000 hours from any LED, whether in my pool or in a variety of other home fixtures. That might mean 2-3 years for me, given 8-10+ hours of pool light use per day. So I tend to hunt for the least expensive solution to minimize the painful cost of replacement.

@willerd was kind to give us a link to this Pureline one for $339 which seems a decent alternative for 12V RGB lighting with a long cord. More written in the thread he started at 12v AC Colorlogic pool light drop-in replacement resolution

Alternatively I know of one person who enjoys this one for less than $75 on amazon. The big downside is a 5 foot cord that, if it doesn’t reach a nearby dry junction box, reviewers state they are splicing the cord, which appears to be a code violation and possibly dangerous – even with a very high quality sealed splice and only 12 volts. On the other hand any light – 12v or otherwise - can incur water seepage, and I’ve seen a dozen or more that did - so I’m not sure how dangerous it truly is at 12vac. Start a new thread debating that?? But, even when using a pool rated transformer I always strongly suggest folks implement a GFCI circuit breaker to feed the primary of the transformer. Also, this cheaper light has a lens that protrudes more than most but it’s not ugly. Lastly, as reviewers note this fixture requires modifying the bracket for most wet niches.

I know of another person with this one from amazon for $200, he’s happy with it for the past year, but he does not use it much. Downside is a proprietary multiwire cord that must be pulled all the way back to a proprietary transformer, usually back at the equipment pad, and it probably is not a UL or CEC rated transformer for pool use. There are dozens of imports like this along amazonian way.

So I reiterate the suggestion to anyone with 12V pool lighting - regardless of style or type - to swap the circuit breaker with GFCI if same is not already present. It can save a life when errant decisions are made at various points of wiring and/or with various uncertified devices - and even in cases of “approved” NEC-compliant installations with deteriorating wiring in and near approved transformer enclosures.

Still more options: If you had a standard 10” resealable luminaire that accepts the common E26 base bulb (or acquire such a luminaire for $400-$800+ I guess - or a used one) then you have better options for spinning in an E26 base RGB or white bulb for $30 to $50. RGB ones as well, less bright, for $50-$75. One friend had good luck with a white one for $60 for 2-3 years and he used it a ton.

I know of another “handy” person who used a standard 10” re-sealable luminaire and mounted and wired 3 MR16 bulbs inside, at about $2 each. He went with white, very bright, 5 watts each. But I think I also saw an NEC code page stating that wiring inside the luminaire is not allowed, despite the fact that some old Sta-Rite fixtures did exactly that to wire multiple halogen bulbs – some at 12V, some even at 120v. I call that one the “build your own lightbulb” solution.