Black Algae vs Gunite

Pool Fool 2

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Jul 19, 2022
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Hi.

I'm a pool owner, but due to family health issues, the pool was closed and not maintained for 5 years or so. We opened it this year with the pool company that has cared for it for the past 25 plus years. It was a muddy mess. Pool was drained and power washed, then filled with clean water and seriously shocked two or three times. The pool is plaster over gunite. We also have successfully used Caribbean Clear for years and never had any chemistry or algae problems over those years.

The pool has lots of little raised black dots in it, and yellow stains. Doing a google search, a friend came up with black algae. The pool company folks said it was not black algae but gunite coming through the plaster. I asked for a test of this. They nuked the pool with chorine and then began scrubbing with a wire brush. I had been scrubbing with a wire brush for several days to prepare for this shock and awe treatment. The little black raised dots did not move and did not fade. Pool company said that if it was black algae, the brushing would have caused the algae to have a cloud in the water. There was no cloud. Pool company said this proves its plaster that has been worn through and the many small black bumps are gunite. They also said that continuing to use the metal brush would further erode the plaster. They said the pool is safe to swim in, but it doesn't look too great.

On this forum, I read that a test for black algae is to scrape some off with a fingernail and smear on a white paper towel. If it's black algae, it will look dark green. I could not scrape any of the black bumps off at all, even with a metal brush. The bumps feel sharp, and trying to scrap with my fingers got me no where.

My daughter has autism and immune issues. Even though the pool company that we have worked with for 20 plus years says this is not black algae, I'm still not convinced. I've read about the possible health issues associated with black algae and am afraid to let anyone in the family swim in the pool until we're sure what the black dots are. Given the heat of the summer, this is really disappointing for all of us.

I'll try and attach some files. Any help you can offer is greatly appreciated.

The two files I attached are from today. This is the first time I've seen the redish "dust" in the pool.

Thank you!
 
Got any pictures? Doesn’t sound like algae but take a look through the TFP pool school articles. TFP does things differently than most and it results in a much easier to manage pool that’s more sanitary than most others.

 
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Got any pictures? Doesn’t sound like algae but take a look through the TFP pool school articles. TFP does things differently than most and it results in a much easier to manage pool that’s sanitary than most others.

Thank you! I tried to upload a couple, but I think they were too big. Will take more tomorrow. I'll look at the articles.
 
Got any pictures? Doesn’t sound like algae but take a look through the TFP pool school articles. TFP does things differently than most and it results in a much easier to manage pool that’s more sanitary than most others.

I'll try attaching the pictures again.
Now I'm worried because I was in the pool for about 15 minutes looking at the black spots, and I found some "relish" dust. I'm concerned that might be a bloom... I never thought I'd worry this much about a pool.
Welcome to the forum.
If it is black algae Black Algae

Use a wooden skewer or some other pointed item to get a piece of it to check for color.
Thanks. I'll try that tomorrow. All three photos I've tried to attach here say that the file is too big for the server. I'll try again tomorrow. My pool has been shocked at least 3 times since opening about 3 weeks ago, and very heavily. The pump is on 23 hours a day, and the copper and chorine levels are checked at least once a week. The Polaris runs 4 hours a day, and the pool is vacuumed weekly as well. Is it possible, if this is black algae, for it to "bloom" under these conditions? If so, is this dangerous? I was in the pool for about 15 mins today, and I'm feeling a bit itchy. I'm sorry if this is a dumb question.

Is it dangerous to swim in a pool with black algae, if it is BA, as described above?

I did read the Black Algae article. The first picture does look a bit like the surfaces in my pool.

Thank you very much for your help.
 
Black algae does not bloom. It permeates in to the plaster. Black algae is actually a bacteria. Cyanobacteria.

As long as the water is properly chlorinated according to the FC/CYA Levels, swimming should not be an issue.

You have to disturb the hard shell over the growth so chlorine can attack it. As you read in the article I linked, you just maintain a slightly elevated FC level over normal target levels and do what you can to disturb that protective shell. Metal brushes can be very damaging to your plaster so be careful with that.
 
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Hi. I've been trying to upload photos, but keep getting a message below that "the uploaded file is too large for the server to process". These pics are just pics from an iPhone, nothing fancy. Is there something I need to do to the pics before uploading them? I've tried turning them into PDF files. Still getting that they are too big.

Thank you!
 

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Hi. I've been trying to upload photos, but keep getting a message below that "the uploaded file is too large for the server to process". These pics are just pics from an iPhone, nothing fancy. Is there something I need to do to the pics before uploading them? I've tried turning them into PDF files. Still getting that they are too big.

Thank you!
Pool fool, just take a screenshot of your photo, you should be able to upload the screenshot with no problems.
Thanks. I just tried that. Same message
 
You are using Caribbean Clear which adds metals; you may have adsorbed and oxidized metal on your plaster surfaces, as you mention ‘years of use’ of the device.
the pool guys just came by. They have changed their minds about what this is. They now say they've never seen anything like it and have no idea what it is. One of the techs was able to peel some of the hard stuff from the surface. It was hard, small like a tan bead. He brought up 3 of them. They did not smear, and they are tan colored. Underneath the hard tan bead was just white plaster, according to him. He used the wire brush and was able to brush some of the stuff off the stairs and floor surface. He says the new pool company plan is to brush the pool with a wire brush all season until all the black/brown/tan stuff comes up...But they don't have a clue what it is. Some of the stains on the pool are tanned and u shaped...3 or 4 of them.

I'll keep trying to post pics.
Thank you all very much for your help with this mystery. Until we know what this is, I don't think any of us will be going into the pool anytime soon.
 
You said they were able to remove some of the 'stain' or dots as you call them.

Take one or two and put some muriatic acid on them. See if they fizz.
 
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