Basecrete Waterproofing

FountainGuy

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Jun 25, 2021
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Southern Arizona
Hi. I'm new to this forum, but have benefited so much from the information posted here. Thanks to all of you for your contribution.

I'm currently building a 2 foot high - 20 foot diameter round fountain with the normal pool equipment. I've build the 3 course high wall with bond beam CMU block with the dreaded cold edge between block and concrete floor.

I want to get the waterproofing stage just right and Basecrete has been recommended to me as a good bonding and waterproofing layer before I install tile. I have a question into Vito at Basecrete, but I've been told he is pretty busy at the moment. I have a few questions regarding the product.

1) Is there any downside in applying basecrete a bit thicker than 1/4" (2 coats) that is recommended. A thicker coat would help smooth out the edges of the block making a rounder surface for the tile.
2) What is the real life coverage of the basecrete product over relatively smooth concrete. They claim 450 feet per kit. My experience with coverage stats for paints and coatings is to divide the manufacturer's number in half. You never achieve nearly the coverage that is stated and I can't just run down to the big box store to pick up another batch of Basecrete if I run short. Can anyone provide any experience?
3) I plan to use the Basecrete mesh at the cold edge. Any advice in this area? perhaps a bead of another sealer in the joint before the mesh?
4) What is the best route to buy the Basecrete product? I'm in a rural part of S. Arizona and I only can find one source (AquaBluMosaics) on-line that carries it.
5) Are there any other waterproofing products that are as good as the Basecrete product?

Thanks for any input that you can provide me. I'm going to rely on the information that Basecrete provides, but there is nothing like input from people who have actually used the product. I'm finding this journey very challenging but in a perverse way very satisfying.
 
I have never used Basecrete but I did recommend it to a fellow building his own spa.. He loved it and it is working great as far as I know..


as for your questions I only know what else can be used and the answer is many products.. I am sticking with all Miracote as they work together for an all tile install..

Miracote - MiraPrime Aqua-Blok XL MiraPrime Aqua-Blok XL - Miracote
Miricote - Membrance C Membrane C - Miracote
Miricote - BC Pro Miracote BC Pro in Rancho Dominguez

here are some more that can be used..

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The tile installation writeup provided by CowboyCasey is an interesting read. I'm not sure what the purpose would be for the mortar bed layer when you already are working from a concrete tank- 5 different layers before the tile is installed. Seems like it's just another layer that potentially can fail and delaminate.

I wish there were more consumer reviews into the Basecrete product line. I've decided to go with the 1) Basecrete intercept product followed by 2) Basecrete coating followed by 3) Tile adhesive/tile. I'll share my DYI experience in a couple of weeks. The fun continues........
 

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That layer is for a shotcrete or gunite pool.. They are not even remotely flat or even when done.. Lets see if I can find a pic.. Found one>> :)

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Because you are starting with a flat surface you can skip those layers... That is a nice looking fountain so far :)
 
I will be doing an all tile pool in the near future. Miracote has some really good detail drawings/videos on their website for pool waterproofing. The block/slab intersection (change of plane) will require a flexible sealant. Good luck with your project.
 
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