First Timer with a bit of decision paralysis...

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phonedave said:
2) I love my 27', but it is a weird size. Clearly they make liners for it in the exact size. But most of the time you will find a limited amount. For covers and such you are going to find 26' or 28' covers and just have to deal with the overlap, or cut it down. And of course pay for that extra material that you do not need.
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Interesting! Looking around at pools, I see many 27' available, some 28', but almost no 26'. LOTS of 24'. I don't know why I think 3 feet will make much difference, but I really want to go for the 27 as opposed to the 24. But I've convinced myself we don't need the 30' :LOL:

I actually grew up in CT, so northern NJ is probably closer to what I was raised with. I've been in VB for over 6 years now, and I swear I am still surprised every year when it's still 70+ in October. I remember a few times as a kid having to figure out how to make ski pants and boots work with our Halloween costumes!
 
3 ft is HUGE in a circle. 119 sqft difference between 24’ and 27’. And another 135 sq ft going up to a 30 footer.
 
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YES, I have read through your ordering-turned-build thread! I hadn't previously paid enough attention to the details to understand that the "resin" pools sold everywhere still had metal walls :oops:

I did poke around online for quite a while yesterday and can't find any other AGPs that are 54" and resin walls, so I'm pretty sure I'm sold on this.

Question: I read that it arrived on a pallet. Is it wrapped well? We no longer have a garage (converted for my mom to move in with us), nor do we have a large shed or anything. The whole thing will have to stay outside until install, which could be a few weeks. Do you think it will be fine if we cover it with tarps and keep it on the driveway (to better avoid dirt/moisture)?
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It is shrink wrapped, but I would definitely tarp it well if it is stored outside. Mainly because soggy cardboard boxes would be a total pain - after all, resin doesn’t rust!

I took shrink wrap off and was able to move some of the smaller boxes into my utility room, leaving just a couple of the big boxes in my carport.
 
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Oh boy...it's like you're speaking another language o_O
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Hard-plumbing just means using real PVC piping as opposed to the cheap hoses commonly used. My installer wanted another couple hundred to do this, so I opted to just upgrade that myself.

Unions are these:
Amazon.com: Hayward SP14952S 1-1/2-Inch Socket by 2-Inch SLIP White ABS Flush Female Union: Garden & Outdoor
  • Basically, PVC piping connects to both sides and it allows you to screw it apart. (If you're using hard-piping instead of hoses/clamps, you want a way to disconnect the equipment from the piping - these accomplish that.)

Here's a picture of my setup when I was upgrading my plumbing to give you a general idea. It was cleaned up a bit more after this was taken but it gives you the general idea. :)
https://imgur.com/pzJrHlW

AGP Equipment Pad and Plumbing

  • First, I added Shutoff Valves - the black things you see on my skimmer and return lines, so I can easily turn off the flow of water.
  • Right below those valves, you can see unions.
  • In my case, I used Flexible PVC hoses. [Still debating whether I want to update that to Rigid PVC this year for a cleaner look].
  • With the unions, I can easily disconnect both of my hoses and bring the hoses and equipment inside for the winter, or take it apart for servicing.
My pump/filter sit together on a nice stand that doesn't leave room for a drain in between the two, but that hasn't been an issue for me. I can drain from the back of my cartridge filter housing, or I use a submersible pump in the pool.

Hope this helps!
Jared
 
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Sometimes procrastination will hurt you like if you took a few days to think, by the time you're ready to go for it it's out of stock.....you know you want just need to suck it up and have it behind you. I have a 27' pool at one of my sites and it's plenty pool. Now just get it up and all dialed in. Follow TFP to the "T" and a bundle of joy it will be.
 
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We had an above ground pool at my previous location. A deck really enhances the experience. Ours was split level too. I liked the look of it but sometimes thought the different levels sacrificed some of the usable space. Really like the bar idea though! Haven't seen that before.
 
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I need a deck. Not going to happen for a while, but I can barely see over the top rail, and I sure can’t reach the return from outside of pool at ground level!
 
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I need a deck. Not going to happen for a while, but I can barely see over the top rail, and I sure can’t reach the return from outside of pool at ground level!
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Mine is buried some near the skimmer too but i still can’t reach hence the log stool lol 😂
 
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This was my original inspiration, and it evolved from there. I loved the look and the idea, but I didn't think it wise to build the bar directly over the top rail in case of future repair needs or even having food or drink accidentally get knocked into the pool. I also started out wanting a semi-inground install because we have neighbors on all sides, so being up on the deck at pool-top level would be like being on a stage, but none of the installers really want to do that in the current environment because they're so busy...so instead, we're getting an 8' privacy fence around the back yard (well, 2 of the 3 sides for now since one was just replaced with a new 6' a couple years ago by my neighbor, so would be silly to replace it already).
 

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Well, there was a knock on my door about an hour ago, and *surprise* the pool was here! I hadn't gotten any notification that it had shipped, that it was being delivered...it just showed up. Now it's sitting on a pallet in my driveway.

I was expecting an email from thepoolfactory.com when it shipped since that's what they said would happen in my order confirmation email. The slip I signed to accept the delivery even says, in two different places, to call to schedule delivery appointment and to call with delivery notification. Luckily, we were home, so it's here :)

Still working on ordering equipment...
 
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This was my original inspiration, and it evolved from there. I loved the look and the idea, but I didn't think it wise to build the bar directly over the top rail in case of future repair needs or even having food or drink accidentally get knocked into the pool. I also started out wanting a semi-inground install because we have neighbors on all sides, so being up on the deck at pool-top level would be like being on a stage, but none of the installers really want to do that in the current environment because they're so busy...so instead, we're getting an 8' privacy fence around the back yard (well, 2 of the 3 sides for now since one was just replaced with a new 6' a couple years ago by my neighbor, so would be silly to replace it already).
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I like that a lot. Not going to happen on my pool (Well it *could* happen, my deck only goes around 40% of my pool, but there are many many many other projects that come first).

I assume the bar top is designed to be easily removed if necessary. I just think about the splashing, somebody thinking a bar stool in the pool is a good idea, and the fact the birds like to use my pool as a giant drinking fountain while using the rail as their bathroom.
 
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So, now that I have almost everything (pool, liner, foam cove, filter, SWCG, and pump is due to arrive today), my installer has gone dark :cautious: He said early last week that he would stop by to take some measurements and drop off my contract, and that was the last I heard despite my attempts to follow up.

Now I am shopping around for potentially a new installer, which is a big challenge. All types of contractors in my area seem to have communication/customer service/responsiveness issues. This pool contractor had even complained about deck contractors and electricians not getting back to HIM, and, yet, here we are. And pool companies sure aren't hurting for work because of the pandemic, so that makes them even less likely to worry about losing a potential customer.

I had another installer that came out and gave me a quote, but I was underwhelmed by the "contract" they sent me, which was really just a form that had the price on it. I work in contracts for a living, so I really wanted some semblance of a workmanship warranty, discussion of a few "what ifs," and a clear description of the services they would provide. They also would require that we provide the pavers, sand, and equipment pad, whereas the installer I thought we were going with would provide those items.
 
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So, now that I have almost everything (pool, liner, foam cove, filter, SWCG, and pump is due to arrive today), my installer has gone dark :cautious: He said early last week that he would stop by to take some measurements and drop off my contract, and that was the last I heard despite my attempts to follow up.

Now I am shopping around for potentially a new installer, which is a big challenge. All types of contractors in my area seem to have communication/customer service/responsiveness issues. This pool contractor had even complained about deck contractors and electricians not getting back to HIM, and, yet, here we are. And pool companies sure aren't hurting for work because of the pandemic, so that makes them even less likely to worry about losing a potential customer.

I had another installer that came out and gave me a quote, but I was underwhelmed by the "contract" they sent me, which was really just a form that had the price on it. I work in contracts for a living, so I really wanted some semblance of a workmanship warranty, discussion of a few "what ifs," and a clear description of the services they would provide. They also would require that we provide the pavers, sand, and equipment pad, whereas the installer I thought we were going with would provide those items.
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Stuff like that drives me nuts. I understand that things happen, emergencies happen, etc. All I ask is that I be kept informed about what is happening.

I ordered my hot tub in June 2020, and the guy came out to do the site survey for delivery yesterday. I understand the delays - factories were shut down due to COVID, resin is difficult to obtain right now, snowstorm has disrupted trucking, etc. But just shoot me an email every so often, or when I call and they say "we will call you next week with an update" then it would be nice if they actually called.

Last fall I arranged for my central air to be replaced (condenser and air handler). Mid November they dropped off the new units in my garage. They are installing them today. Yes, we had a lot of frozen pipes and heating issues this winter, I get it, but I had to bug them to schedule this appointment. Just give me a call or a text every so often so I know you did not forget about me. I don't need a 30 minute meeting, just a text "hey, sorry we have not scheduled the rest of your install, we have a lot of heat emergencies we are dealing with"

I don't understand why so many contractors cannot seem to communicate with their customers.
 
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