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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    117.0/117.8 with HVAC on. 118.1/118.8 w/ HVAC off. Confirmed the tingle with water at both skimmers… standing on pool deck w/ wet feet. No issues at the metal fixtures and the water. First pool company won’t even look at it until the slow season. Not giving up yet. Is there really a slow...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    I feel for you and your family. Don’t give up. There are lots of knowledgeable folks here, that will eventually help you figure it out. I’m in north Florida so the pool companies stay backlogged. I’ve identified some of the problem but I’m far from completion. I think I still have plenty...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    I’ll do that. Need to eliminate all faults… not just the wonky bonding. I also remember a post that said an old landline was introducing voltage into the ground, and feeding the neutral? I’ll make sure the old bellsouth lines are capped and stowed.
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    I remember the electric company tech checking that with the meter removed. I don’t remember the exact reading but he said they were matched up. It was 117.? Kinda funny… I was just checking various sections of the pool deck. With the ladder/water bond removed, I swam around and splashed water...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    Barry321, I think yours was one of the posts that I was following. I’m pretty sure I know what needs to be done with mine. I also have the neutral voltage from the service, which remained even with the house meter removed. Proper bonding of the metal items and water took away the tingle… brought...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    Yeah, guess I was hoping my fix would take care of the whole bonding problem… knowing all along that there were continuity differences between all of the metal items through the slab. Basically, I just buried new wire, and made sure it was connected to all of the metal items. I figured that...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    I was wet… and barefooted, so yes. After this happened, I removed the ladder, so the water wasn’t bonded. As I’m swimming around, I can splash parts of the deck and feel the shock. Some sections, no. Probably a waste of time but it seems like it’ll tell me what sections of the slab might have...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    Just got zapped cleaning out the skimmer. Now that I’ve made sure the metal parts…including the water are bonded, seems I’m chasing another ghost. This wasn’t an issue before I fixed the broken bond. This is a fiberous slab, with no rebar. I see another long forum post about the same issue...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    Bonded and replaced both ladder anchors, connected new bonding loop to the handrail that had no connection. Took some voltage readings before and after. Before: 2+VAC between the water and handrail… with noticeable tingle. After adding additional loop and making sure everything is connected, .04...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    No known leak. Lots of evaporation. (Heat and wind) Figured since the bonding loop continuity varies… one section reads 5Megohms… I needed to get to the bottom of that.
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    98* out so i spent some time in the pool… more troubleshooting. Since I have high resistance from point to point on the bonding loop, I thought I could stretch out some extension cords, in an attempt to duplicate the loop. I clamped the ground conductor to the handrails and the ladder contacts...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    If I have enough of the handrail exposed below the deck surface, I’d be able to fish a wire to a bonding clamp. Not sure if connecting it to the known good wire will make up for the other loop resistance/bad connections. I can see the wire that comes from the slab and goes to the motor...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    Definitely not having fun with this project. It’s looking like there are bad bonding connections to the loop in a few places. Since the handrails are set in poured concrete, (no bonded anchors), it’s not clear where those connections to the loop are located. I’d have to bust up a lot of cool...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    Started working my way into the concrete around one of the handrails. Unfortunately, these rails aren’t installed into the clamp-type anchors. I immediately uncovered a bonding wire, just below the surface, that seems to route downward into the slab. ‘Looks like it may be attached below both of...
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    New guy with an old pool - Bonding Issue

    So… today I was able to cut out the ladder anchors, and learned that the bonding loop is intact but was corroded away from both anchors. I also learned that this slab has the fiber reinforcement… not rebar. I have some continuity to each handrail from the ladder area but I’m afraid they both may...