Questions about bestway agp sizing

[koffey]

Quick question. Do you take the pool out to size up where the supports go so you know where to put the blocks? Or do you use the booklet? Got my wiring finished as well. Just need to connect to the panel.

 

[CJadamec]

Beat way to know where the blocks go is to setup the frame and put the blocks under the legs then. No guess work that way.

Just don't add any water until you get all the blocks done.

 

[koffey]

Thanks, that's great, maybe I'll start taking the frame out tomorrow. Just finished applying 42d, vapor barrier over top to fry and thirst out the weeds. Not that many but a good over spray. The area was starting to look like a dead Lake bed with weeds.

Working well already.

 

[koffey]

Pretty well much done for the day, didn't get a lot completed but assembled the frame to find out where the supports sit and cut up some SPF for all the supports. Hopefully tomorrow I'll get them lined up and leveled out and flush with the ground. Thing just fits, lol

 

[koffey]

Can anyone comment on my water level. Just slapped it together. Right now it's level on an unlevel deck, just add water and mark the tubes?

 

[koffey]

How important is a flat base if the post supports are flush. I guess since I dug a few months back, there's a noticeable high side. Been using the water level across each support and in a good section the support boards are considerably deeper in the ground. My question, should I rework the entire base or am I still good to go? I'm thinking that the concensus would be shave it?

 

[kellyfair]

Your pavers should all be level with each other.

 

[koffey]

Well, this is as far as I got. Still need to finish the electrical, got the pump all assembled too. Pools almost full. Surprising the sides haven't straighten out but I guess this is normal?

 

[koffey]

Legs on the pool are not 100% plumb which I find odd. Water level in the pool is perfectly level tho... Some of the legs haven't fully straighten out, 2 u supports are not tight to the material it's feed through and the main poles at the front and back are still angled, I'm not sure why but pool is pretty well much full. Any reason for concern at this point? The pic of the leg is when the pool was empty, it's a little straighter but not by much.

 

[kellyfair]

That leaning out concerns me.

 

[koffey]

That leaning out concerns me.

I was concerned as well but it appears to be the way the pool strap holds the legs. I tried straightening them out prior to filling but each corner that I would straighten, the opposite corner would pull inward. Had my wife help me to make sure that it just wasn't because I was pulling one side. Very strange. Pool water is perfectly level too.

I've been reading the abcs of water chemistry and will be picking up some more chemicals today, initially I only bought liquid chlorine and stabilizer. The pool water is really cloudy so I'm thinking high ph. I have my taylor test kit as well and I'm reading on how to use it. Have to admit, I might be in over my head with this chemical stuff, lol. Any ideas or suggestions on what I do first? I think I can do the testing part, but I'm not sure how much of xyz product I need to add to the water.

One final question for this post... Should the sand filter only help collect debris? I thought for sure it would help with the clarity of the water itself, but even with running it for a few days the water changed.

Thanks in advance.

 

[magiteck]

Any ideas or suggestions on what I do first? I think I can do the testing part, but I'm not sure how much of xyz product I need to add to the water.

Perform all of the tests and post up the results here like below, and we can advise.

FC-
CC-
pH-
TA-
CH-
CYA-

 

[koffey]

Perform all of the tests and post up the results here like below, and we can advise.

FC-
CC-
pH-
TA-
CH-
CYA-

So, there is no chlorine in my pool yet. I did the fas-dpd and it was clear.

FC-0
CC-0
pH- looks to be 7, posted a photo cause I can't really tell.
TA- 100? took 10 drops to green to red.
CH- 50, took about 5-6 drops to turn blue.
CYA-30, black dot never disappeared.

 

[koffey]

Been reading a bunch of sites, going to dump 2.5L of liquid chlorine into the pool since I don't have anything in it yet. Label on the bottle says 1L for every 10000L h2o and pool is just shy of 25000L.
Probably should have done that prior to even testing the water but as I mentioned, I have no idea where to start. lol

 

[magiteck]

So, there is no chlorine in my pool yet. I did the fas-dpd and it was clear.

FC-0
CC-0
pH- looks to be 7, posted a photo cause I can't really tell.
TA- 100? took 10 drops to green to red.
CH- 50, took about 5-6 drops to turn blue.
CYA-30, black dot never disappeared.

TA is OK, CH is fine for a vinyl pool. pH is a bit low but if your TA is 100, it should rise.

Have you added any CYA to the water at this point? (Or, have you used any "pucks" or granular chlorine?) If not your CYA level may be zero. Regardless you will need to add some - just don't want to over shoot.

You also need chlorine pronto (which I see below you've added some), but if there's no CYA in the water the chlorine isn't going to last long at all. Let me know on the CYA question and we can advise how much to add.

 

[koffey]

TA is OK, CH is fine for a vinyl pool. pH is a bit low but if your TA is 100, it should rise.

Have you added any CYA to the water at this point? (Or, have you used any "pucks" or granular chlorine?) If not your CYA level may be zero. Regardless you will need to add some - just don't want to over shoot.

You also need chlorine pronto (which I see below you've added some), but if there's no CYA in the water the chlorine isn't going to last long at all. Let me know on the CYA question and we can advise how much to add.

I have some stabilizer, not pucks but granular but haven't add it yet, was just reading the label, it doesn't indicate how much to put in. Cya is zero.

 

[magiteck]

I have some stabilizer, not pucks but granular but haven't add it yet, was just reading the label, it doesn't indicate how much to put in. Cya is zero.

According to PoolMath, 2lbs of dry stabilizer in a 25,000L pool would raise CYA to 36ppm which would be a good place to start. We round up with CYA so you’ll just call that 40 until you can verify with testing.

Add the dry stabilizer to a sock and suspend it in front of your return. The stabilizer will get soft and after 30-60 minutes you can start squeezing the sock and it will mix into the water.

Then, you’re going to add and maintain chlorine based on the FC/CYA Levels for 40ppm CYA. That means 5-7ppm Free Chlorine is ideal and you never want to fall below 3ppm. I like to ride the high end for security. You can safely swim as high as SLAM level which would be 16ppm at 40CYA.

Test and add chlorine daily, especially until you know how your pool behaves. Daily loss of 2-4ppm is normal in the sun. PoolMath will tell you how much to add. And if you subscribe for like $7/year you can track your logs over time and even share them with the forum to get help as needed.

Let us know what questions you have! And make sure to read ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry if you haven’t yet.

 

[koffey]

According to PoolMath, 2lbs of dry stabilizer in a 25,000L pool would raise CYA to 36ppm which would be a good place to start. We round up with CYA so you’ll just call that 40 until you can verify with testing.

Add the dry stabilizer to a sock and suspend it in front of your return. The stabilizer will get soft and after 30-60 minutes you can start squeezing the sock and it will mix into the water.

Then, you’re going to add and maintain chlorine based on the FC/CYA Levels for 40ppm CYA. That means 5-7ppm Free Chlorine is ideal and you never want to fall below 3ppm. I like to ride the high end for security. You can safely swim as high as SLAM level which would be 16ppm at 40CYA.

Test and add chlorine daily, especially until you know how your pool behaves. Daily loss of 2-4ppm is normal in the sun. PoolMath will tell you how much to add. And if you subscribe for like $7/year you can track your logs over time and even share them with the forum to get help as needed.

Let us know what questions you have! And make sure to read ABCs of Pool Water Chemistry if you haven’t yet.

Fantastic advice, I read the abcs but understanding them is something else. I haven't been outside to check yet but I added the 2.5L of liquid chlorine yesterday in front of the inlet and the water was super cloudy. Chlorine has been in the pool with the pump on for about 16hrs, overnight. The pump specs says about 1500g/h so in line with 8hrs to fully circulate the pool. I'm hoping it's at least not a cloudy as yesterday. Will report back shortly. Picking up some stuff to control ph today, ordered yesterday but couldn't pick up. In Ontario, you can't just walk into stores, at least not yet.... So getting stuff done is overly complicated and I'm not too well versed in what I need for this pool to be amazing yet.


EDIT: So just came in from outside, I put 900 grams/2lbs of stabilizer into the pool. I can see the bottom of the pool again after adding the chlorine and running the pump non stop. It's pouring outside and I'm heading out to pick up borax, muriatic acid and baking soda. I'm also fresh out of stabilizer so there is news that stores will begin to reopen on Friday. No hurry at this point.

 

[koffey]

So, when should I perform a new test? I've read that it can take up to 48hrs for the stabilizer to dissolve.... Been ringing the sock, there's a slight hole in it so some of the material is on the bottom. Also vaccum and installed a skimmer basket. Looks so much better than yesterday.

 

[kellyfair]

I hope you vacuumed up the stabilizer on pool bottom. Can stain your liner. I’d throw that sock instead another that doesn’t have holes.

Wait a day or two to test, and add chlorine as if the stabilizer is already showing up on test.