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Jive5877

Jive5877

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May 7, 2018
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Hi I need help we bought a pool last year and the winter cover split in a half so all the environmental stuff went in my pool. My pool is now green and the pool store has been less than helpful. My pool is 24x54 round above ground. It holds about 14,000 gallons of water. I just got a TF 100 kit Anything I can do before the kit arrives? Help please I've included as much info about my pool that I can think of. If you need anything else let me know
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Welcome to TFP!!:handwave:

Yes, first do you have the pump running? If so you need to add one bottle of plane unscented bleach to the pool each day with the pump running.

Use your net to scoop out as much junk as you can

When you start the SLAM Process to clear theat pool the K-2006 will not have sufficient chlorine tests. Order these today so you have them when you need them:

R-0871 (1 oz) FAS/DPD Reagent
R-0870 DPD Powder (for TF-100 and K-2006)

While you wait for it to get delivered, you have a homework reading assignment. Start with ABCs of Water Chemistry and Turning Your Green Swamp Back into a Sparkling Oasis
 
Leaf net drag the floor even if you have to do it blind get as much debris out as possible. I will suggest starting with measuring PH. Get it to 7.2 and use baking soda or sodium bicarbonate to raise. Or muratic acid to lower. Use pool calc to determine how many oz. by size of pool. Go to Wal-Mart or any store and get concentrated 8 % bleach or 10% pool chlorine. If you are waiting on a reliable test kit get an HTH cheap $15 6 way test kit at the store for now. Once you have pH at 7.2 do the measuring and check for cya levels you want it between 30 and 50 to render chlorine effective. Add bleach and take CH measurements. You have to SLAM the pool. Typically SLAM or shock levels are between 15 to 20 PPM. I suggest triple filtering by using skimmer filter sock, you're cartridge filter and 5 micron Duda Diesel Bag on return jet attached to a 90 degree elbow. Make sure to continually maintain the shock slam levels of 15 to 20 PPM, as the algae will eat up the Chlorine fast. Your goal is to not lose more than 1 to 2 ppm CH in 24 hours. Using these methods you should go from green to clear green to cloudy blue in 72 hrs. Depending on how well you filtrate you may need some flocculant to get there fine suspended particles out of the water, once you get to clear green. I'm combating a clear green pool myself right now. I'm at 3 Seasons opening crystal clear and three season opening up to a Black Swamp. Follow these methods and you should get there between 3 Days To a week. Keep repeatedly brushing and constantly checking the filter if you have time while it's running cuz it will clog up fast and initially
 
RobertScalchi said:
Leaf net drag the floor even if you have to do it blind get as much debris out as possible. I will suggest starting with measuring PH. Get it to 7.2 and use baking soda or sodium bicarbonate to raise. Or muratic acid to lower. Use pool calc to determine how many oz. by size of pool. Go to Wal-Mart or any store and get concentrated 8 % bleach or 10% pool chlorine. If you are waiting on a reliable test kit get an HTH cheap $15 6 way test kit at the store for now. Once you have pH at 7.2 do the measuring and check for cya levels you want it between 30 and 50 to render chlorine effective. Add bleach and take CH measurements. You have to SLAM the pool. Typically SLAM or shock levels are between 15 to 20 PPM. I suggest triple filtering by using skimmer filter sock, you're cartridge filter and 5 micron Duda Diesel Bag on return jet attached to a 90 degree elbow. Make sure to continually maintain the shock slam levels of 15 to 20 PPM, as the algae will eat up the Chlorine fast. Your goal is to not lose more than 1 to 2 ppm CH in 24 hours. Using these methods you should go from green to clear green to cloudy blue in 72 hrs. Depending on how well you filtrate you may need some flocculant to get there fine suspended particles out of the water, once you get to clear green. I'm combating a clear green pool myself right now. I'm at 3 Seasons opening crystal clear and three season opening up to a Black Swamp. Follow these methods and you should get there between 3 Days To a week. Keep repeatedly brushing and constantly checking the filter if you have time while it's running cuz it will clog up fast and initially
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Some very good suggestion here, but I will correct one thing:

Get it to 7.2 and use baking soda or sodium bicarbonate to raise.
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Baking soda raises TA, not pH. Borax or Soda Ash raises pH.
 
Ok guys thank you for your help. I canceled my Taylor k 2006 kit and ordered the TF-100 no point in trying to save money now. For added fun my skimmer basket is wedge in so now I can't pull it out. I can put my hand in and pull the leaves out. I also leafed bagged the bottom and most of the leaves are up. I will keep skimming the top and head to Walmart now
 
Jive5877 said:
Ok guys thank you for your help. I canceled my Taylor k 2006 kit and ordered the TF-100 no point in trying to save money now. For added fun my skimmer basket is wedge in so now I can't pull it out. I can put my hand in and pull the leaves out. I also leafed bagged the bottom and most of the leaves are up. I will keep skimming the top and head to Walmart now
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Progress already!!

Keep it up
 

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I hope you didn't spend too much on those. We don't trust them at all :(

Best to add a gallon of bleach everyday with the pump running until your test kit arrives.
 
Looking forward to watching the progress here.

My best practice suggestion is not much different than what has already been given:

Get all the debris out of the pool, leaf rake, vacuum, get as much of that out as possible meaning, not just once but keep vacuuming til you get nothing back.

Get to the pool calculator, make a bookmark for your browser and use it. I check and double check and it has served me well.

I struggled with overshooting on my applications vs my test results, mostly because I needed such major adjustments, where I would target say 50% (TA 80-120, I would target 100 and end up at 120), so I target lower and I am now landing where I wanted to be. This will take some experience for your situation.

I suggest smaller adjustments so that you are not adding and then overshooting and now correcting the other direction. That is time consuming and frustrating.

Get the CYA coming up to at least 30, this can be working while your test kit is shipped.

Get your test kit, grab a journal or excel and keep a log of your test results and pool condition and update with each test.

Get your TA inline - I target the TA first because I went through a series of bounces with my pH when my TA was 40, once I focused on TA and got it lined out then my pH snapped right inline with a small adjustment.

Get your pH to 7.2

Now you have CYA, TA & pH...

I have vinyl, so I run low calcium hardness levels, so you may want to adjust this a little bit, my impression is for vinyl this is personal preference (mine is currently 100ppm).

Start the SLAM process until you pass OCLT.

Keep brushing through SLAM, it does help.

You will have a sparkling pool at the end of this.

Last year I had a swamp and I went to perfect and never once added algaecide or floc or anything other than chlorine. Hopefully you won't have any of the pool store inspired bad habits that "most" of us show up with.

We love pictures, so feel free to post them as you are going. I took 1 pic every day around the same time to assist with my visual motivation.
 
funandsun said:
Looking forward to watching the progress here.

My best practice suggestion is not much different than what has already been given:

Get all the debris out of the pool, leaf rake, vacuum, get as much of that out as possible meaning, not just once but keep vacuuming til you get nothing back.

Get to the pool calculator, make a bookmark for your browser and use it. I check and double check and it has served me well.

I struggled with overshooting on my applications vs my test results, mostly because I needed such major adjustments, where I would target say 50% (TA 80-120, I would target 100 and end up at 120), so I target lower and I am now landing where I wanted to be. This will take some experience for your situation.

I suggest smaller adjustments so that you are not adding and then overshooting and now correcting the other direction. That is time consuming and frustrating.

Get the CYA coming up to at least 30, this can be working while your test kit is shipped.

Get your test kit, grab a journal or excel and keep a log of your test results and pool condition and update with each test.

Get your TA inline - I target the TA first because I went through a series of bounces with my pH when my TA was 40, once I focused on TA and got it lined out then my pH snapped right inline with a small adjustment.

Get your pH to 7.2

Now you have CYA, TA & pH...

I have vinyl, so I run low calcium hardness levels, so you may want to adjust this a little bit, my impression is for vinyl this is personal preference (mine is currently 100ppm).

Start the SLAM process until you pass OCLT.

Keep brushing through SLAM, it does help.

You will have a sparkling pool at the end of this.

Last year I had a swamp and I went to perfect and never once added algaecide or floc or anything other than chlorine. Hopefully you won't have any of the pool store inspired bad habits that "most" of us show up with.

We love pictures, so feel free to post them as you are going. I took 1 pic every day around the same time to assist with my visual motivation.
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Thank you so much for the motivation. I recently found out my skimmer is cracked and we are to afraid to fix it ourselves so someone is coming out tomorrow to do it. Once that is set and my pool is refilled I will be starting the slam process. However there is rain in the forecast for the next several days so I hope that doesn't interfere with the process.
 
Take a look at the picture i attached. You cut off the original ring of the bag. I attached my bag with a simple hose clamp to a 90 degree elbow return and screw it into my return jet where my eyeball typically goes. I use a turn key hose clamp from an auto parts store for convenience, since when clearing algae and other muck from my water, since I have to remove the bag every hour to rinse and clean it because it loads up so fast until the water clears. You have to turn the bag inside out to rinse it, and then turn it right side in and rinse it again with hot water until water runs clear. It is faster and preferable with a pressure washer if you have access to one, if not then just rinse with sink hose and hot water. Mine is 5 micron. You can get them as low as 1 micron and as high as 100 micron. It is more like a pool hack, and not a pool product. These filters are generally used to filter oil. You want to order the polyester Non Coated 4x14
 
Once you start SLAM'ing stay with it. I cleared a green swamp in 2 days but I have a DE filter. Get all the junk off the bottom and Brush the pool, let it settle over night and vac in the morning. Test. SLAM. Brush. Vac next day.
 

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