Pentair IC60 and Easytouch8-SWG cycling on/off

[xyz]

Well, I have 3.11 version cell and had the restart issue. I hope the new cell fixes your problem, but I don't think it's the Intellichlor that needs addressing. My money is still on the transformer or power supply. Keep us updated.

You are right. While the firmware may make it better, even without 3.11, I've got it fixed.


Ok! I am running at 6% WITH the intelliPH, and it is working 5x5.

YEA!!!

Well I have the fix for you. It is 35 bucks and some wiring.

ill give you all more I for when it is all done without the hack I have in place.

What I have working right now is a 24 and a 12v switcher running in series for 36v.

It has been running for 30 min with no restarts on 6%, which is the lowest setting where the iPH will dose, and for me, the best way to force the restart issue to occur.

It it is completely good. So I have a 36v switcher on its way which I will install permanently.

Maim running it off the 240 for the motor so it woks just like normal.

Yea!

Man this was a hard one.

Thank you all for your mall your help.

Ill post details for anyone that wants to implement this fix. Requires you fooling with the plug a tad, but I can show pics for anyone that is not comfortable with wiring.

OR, maybe someone knows where we can buy the male and female of this so we can make it reversible.

 

[Ocgasman]

Would love details and pics!

 

[Jimrahbe]

xyz,

Excellent work!!

You should get a job at Pentair... Oh, wait... you can actually write an understandable sentence, so that won't work.

Jim R.

 

[xyz]

xyz,

Excellent work!!

You should get a job at Pentair... Oh, wait... you can actually write an understandable sentence, so that won't work.

Jim R.

Too funny.

Engineers don't like to write, for sure.

Anyway, this mornings report is 100% good PH doses, zero failed. IC60 R mains Green Green.

I wont bother to share my "hack" power supply unless anyone wants to truly wants me to embarrass myself. .

But it here is the power supply that will do the trick.

Amazon.com: GENSSI 36V DC 9.7A 350W Regulated Switching Power Supply: Electronics

it is a bit over kill, but all the other options are much more expensive, and I like these switchers because they have been wrung out a thousand times over. They also have a range adjustment of 25%, so if someone had an extension and was losing power, you could dial it up a bit. 24v didn't work, 36v works. Not sure how close to the edge I am, but when I was rigging up batteries to try it out, I seem to remember it working down to 32v.

All you do is pull the +vDC red pin from the board, and then -vDC goes to black and the board, and +vDC goes to the lifter red wire.

Put the switcher into 240v mode, wire to the main motor relay, power up your system, smile, and begin drinking your beverage of choice.

If anyone is going to do the mod, I'll kibitz all you like.

 

[xyz]

Still working perfectly at 6%. Zero failed intelliPH doses.

 

[bdavis466]

Where's the pictures????

 

[xyz]

Where's the pictures????

The hack I have in place right now is too embarrassing for a picture, and I don't want to leave any hard evidence! But maybe tonight I will get the chance to do it a bit better and I'll send pics.

 

[bdavis466]

I've got one coming...lets see the wiring disaster!

 

[xyz]

I've got one coming...lets see the wiring disaster!

You first!

It is not so much the wiring, it is 2 power supplies crammed in there with some gaffers tape.

 

[Ocgasman]

XYZ or Brian,

Please post pics and details of this fix. I know I'm more electrically challenged than both of you and my IC restarts have come back with a vengeance so I need to address this issue asap. XYZ, you da man for figuring this out!

 

[xyz]

Ok. First, take a picture of the inside of your box and provide dimensions. AND/OR figure out how you will mount the Power supply. It is 2" x 4.5" x 8.5".

For me, I'm mounting it in this orientation near the right side:

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If it will fit, buy it, and I'll follow up with exactly where to wire and ground it.

I've kept power and signal ground isolated so as to not compromise anything that is also using this existing power supply.

More later.

 

[xyz]

It is still working like a champ. The fan never comes on at 10%. At 100% it comes on maybe about 50% when it was pretty hot, so I think that will be OK. YMMV.

Pics later when I have my iPhone.

 

[bdavis466]

I bought that power supply without really looking at it. That thing is huge! You fit it in the low voltage cabinet?

 

[Ocgasman]

I bought that power supply without really looking at it. That thing is huge! You fit it in the low voltage cabinet?

I was looking at that last night too and noticed the dimensions also. Is there something else that's smaller? I'm not sure that will fit in my cabinet either. I will check when I get home later.

 

[xyz]

I bought that power supply without really looking at it. That thing is huge! You fit it in the low voltage cabinet?

Hopefully you bought from Amazon so you can return!

Anyway, yes, it fits. I have it off to the right with the terminal strip pointing up. That leaves enough space for the fan to circulate air. I'll post some pics soon.

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Oh sorry. I didn't read this specifically. No it doesn't fin in the upper part of the cabinet, I have it on the Lowe portion all the way to the right near the bottom.

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Here is the orientation for how I mounted it.








It is 2"x4.5"x8.5"

 

[xyz]

I was looking at that last night too and noticed the dimensions also. Is there something else that's smaller? I'm not sure that will fit in my cabinet either. I will check when I get home later.

we -may- be able to find something somewhat smaller. Not likely for this price though.

Per Pentair spec you need a min of 7amps. I no longer trust this spec though because they also said 22v was the minimum. And even at 30, it would not work.

Maybe if you have an IC40, I have a 18 dollar recommendation that -might- work that is significantly smaller--but it would only barely blink the LEDs on the IC60 at 30 Volts.

I can can probably find you a smaller one for a lot more coin if you like. 36 seems to be a reliable voltage, and 30 is not.

I can can probably also find you 3 small 12v supplies that might be a compromise.

However, this one works well, has enough margin so it is not on the edge of overheating, and is darn cheap.

Ill see see if I can find you some 12v options.

 

[xyz]

Three of these -might- work. They are about 1x2x4. You might want to add a small fan, not sure how efficient they will be.

They are are auto ranging, so you can run them off of 120 OR 240 vAC

GEREE AC to DC Converter 85 ~ 265v AC to DC 12V 8A Adapter/Industrial Module Switching Power Supply - - Amazon.com


since I didn't use this approach, I can't vouch for it working and remaining cool enough at 100% on a hot day, so plan on a temp sensor and a fan to be safe if you go this way.

 

[xyz]

So, if you stick with the single supply, be sure to get the input voltage right before you hook it up.




My pump runs on 240, so I set the PS to 240.

 

[xyz]

Here is where I lifted the 240vAC power.

i put blue and green tape on the two AC wires that will power the switcher.

 

[bdavis466]

Did your IPH come with the Stenner pump head or did you replace it?

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Speaker wire!?!?