Hayward .85Hp super pump

[SoonerFan]

I had to replace my .75Hp Hayward super pump. I received a .85Hp Hayward super pump with a 10ft lift. I was not aware this was coming with the pump can I use this or should I return it for what I had before. Also in the electrical area there are two small black wires that were not on the old one. Could someone tell me what they are for?

Thank you !

 

[JamesW]

I suspect that it is a pump that someone installed and then sent back because it would not start.

The Governor and centrifugal switch look like they are bent.

 

[JamesW]

Can you show the pump inlet and outlet?

 

[JamesW]

Can you show the motor label?

 

[SoonerFan]

 

[JamesW]

Does it look used?

Does the inlet or outlet have any sealant in the threads?

 

[SoonerFan]

No it does not look used and there is no sealant in the threads. It’s a brand new pump assembly just looks different than the old broken one.

 

[JamesW]

The wires are not factory installed.

So, that points to it being used in my opinion.

The motor label says to use copper conductors only and the wires look like they are aluminum.

 

[JamesW]

Was it in a new unopened box?

 

[JamesW]

I received a .85Hp Hayward super pump with a 10ft lift. I was not aware this was coming with the pump can I use this or should I return it for what I had before?

What is your concern?

You weren't aware of what?

What is a 10 ft lift?

 

[SoonerFan]

What is your concern?

You weren't aware of what?

What is a 10 ft lift?

I really just want to know what the two small black wires are for in the electrical box. They don’t appear to be wired to anything. Can they be removed or do they stay there when I connect the cable wires?

 

[JamesW]

I really just want to know what the two small black wires are for in the electrical box. They don’t appear to be wired to anything. Can they be removed or do they stay there when I connect the cable wires?

Just remove them.

In my opinion, the pump was connected to power for some reason and then the wires were cut.

Those are not installed at the factory.

I suspect that the pump might have some sort of problem.

 

[Saturn94]

The wires are not factory installed.

So, that points to it being used in my opinion.

The motor label says to use copper conductors only and the wires look like they are aluminum.

Are you sure about that?

I bought a new Hayward Superpump motor this spring and it had cut wires (copper) attached like the OP showed. I ordered the motor from Leslies and it came sealed in a Hayward box; all components look brand new with no signs of being used. Even the cut wires/connectors look brand new. The motor is operating normally. Btw, I made sure to buy from an authorized Hayward dealer to preserve any warranty.

I’m pretty sure the previous Hayward motor (purchased from Poolcenter.com) I installed also had the cut leads when I bought it new and it lasted 10 years.

I figured they were connections made at the factory to test the motor?

I just removed the cut wires and connected our existing wires.

 

[JamesW]

Are you sure about that?

I suppose that the wires might have been connected at the motor manufacturer or at the pump manufacturer to test run the motor or pump.

However, I think that they would just use something like alligator clips that can be connected and disconnected quickly and easily.

Even if they did use these female spade connectors at the factory, why wouldn’t they just remove them so that they can connect them to the next motor or pump?

It doesn’t make sense to connect them and cut them off every time.

In my opinion, the wires probably were not installed at the factory.

You can contact the manufacturer of the motor and/or the pump to ask them.

 

[Saturn94]

I suppose that the wires might have been connected at the motor manufacturer or at the pump manufacturer to test run the motor or pump.

However, I think that they would just use something like alligator clips that can be connected and disconnected quickly and easily.

Even if they did use these female spade connectors at the factory, why wouldn’t they just remove them so that they can connect them to the next motor or pump?

It doesn’t make sense to connect them and cut them off every time.

In my opinion, the wires probably were not installed at the factory.

You can contact the manufacturer of the motor and/or the pump to ask them.

That does makes sense, and I was thinking that as well. I wonder what the chances are of getting in contact with someone at Hayward (or would it be Century?…see pic) that would actually know the answer? Reliable information from companies is hard to come by these days, lol.

 

[JamesW]

I wonder what the chances are of getting in contact with someone at Hayward (or would it be Century?…see pic) that would actually know the answer?

0.001876%

 

[Saturn94]

0.001876%

I contacted Hayward via their website form. We’ll see if they know what I’m talking about and come back with a coherent answer.

Frankly, I’d be a bit upset if an authorized Hayward dealer sold me a used motor (or a refurbished return?) as new. I certainly paid the new price!

I didn’t think to question the presence of the wires since everything, including the wires and connectors (absolutely no sign of oxidation on the connectors/wires), look brand spanking new.

 

[1poolman1]

I had to replace my .75Hp Hayward super pump. I received a .85Hp Hayward super pump with a 10ft lift. I was not aware this was coming with the pump can I use this or should I return it for what I had before. Also in the electrical area there are two small black wires that were not on the old one. Could someone tell me what they are for?

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Test leads from the factory. Used to see it regularly on Hayward single-speed pumps.

 

[Saturn94]

Test leads from the factory. Used to see it regularly on Hayward single-speed pumps.

Thanks for this.

 

[JamesW]

Still seems odd to me that they would do this.