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    Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    I am so far over budget the idea of adding another $550 for shells (for the entire pool) hurts. I thought I would see if anyone has added it just to the tanning ledge and spa? Any pictures, suggestions, thoughts? Going to ask my PB tomorrow about it - but before I do, thought I would see what the peanut gallery thought.
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    I have thought of the same thing.

    We don't have any markers on our steps or the ledge of our tanning shelf - so I thought it might be nice to brighten up the surface of these areas to prevent people from hitting them???

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    I have thought of the same thing.

    We don't have any markers on our steps or the ledge of our tanning shelf - so I thought it might be nice to brighten up the surface of these areas to prevent people from hitting them???
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    Suz the Peanut here!! My PB gave me a price of $350 for adding the shells to the pool and spa, everywhere. Just thought it might be helpful for you to know what another area PB is charging. Maybe it will give you a little bargaining leverage - or not! Maybe you could mention a lower price to compensate for all the rain delays?????? Your PB has been so great. I think he might give you a break!

    To me this is one of those things you can NOT add later, so if at all possible, add them if you can. People who have them added love them. I haven't been able to really tell the difference in pictures. People post pictures with the shells added and say, "Aren't they gorgeous?!" I can't see it, but the people who have them are so excited that I'm taking their word that it's worth it. I'm definitely going go with the shells. If your PB won't budge on the price, then do whatever areas you can!

    I think they will look great wherever you add them regardless of whether or not you can do all of the pool. What I DON'T know is if it would give you 'more bang for the buck' by adding them to the deeper areas (main pool area) or the more shallow areas (the tanning ledge and spa). Would you not need them in the shallow areas, because those areas will already be sparkly? Or do the shells show up better in the shallow areas? Sorry that I can't answer that for you.

    I hope people can log on to answer for you before tomorrow. Good luck! Suz.
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    Peanut number 2 here!

    I LOVE the idea of lots of them on the two areas. Make them stand out. Kind of like "I am here and so pretty!"

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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    My PB said we could do the ledge & spa for 150! I think that's a great deal! Just wondering if I will miss it in the rest of the pool. How much can you see it I wonder?
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    You may want to ask the builder if they have any customers that would be willing for you to come by and see how it looks in a completed pool. I think most builders have a couple of customers they use for references.
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    The deeper the water, the less of the finish we see. On the stairs, benches and ledge we can see the details, but it fades very quickly. Adding the detail to the areas where the water is shallow, and not worrying about the deep seems like a smart move.
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ascew View Post
    The deeper the water, the less of the finish we see. On the stairs, benches and ledge we can see the details, but it fades very quickly. Adding the detail to the areas where the water is shallow, and not worrying about the deep seems like a smart move.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ what they said!

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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    Sun:

    I think you can do it with no problem.

    However, I think you should know our PB only quoted the Shells for our pool at $300, and they were NOT chinzy with them either. The PT Sheen guys really threw them in, and it makes a big difference with finish. We did not use the tile markers and were pretty happy with the shells. It looks very natural. When the sun is fully out, it just makes the water sparkle. As much as you are spending on this pool, I'm surprised the PB didn't throw them in as a perk.

    When he comes over, have a spiked drink with an umbrella in it. Maybe 2, if necessary! Sit him down, and use some of that southern charm on the guy and see if you can negotiate him down. I bet you can save some $$$.

    If you need a good recipe, I have several.

    I'm looking forward to seeing some water in this build.
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    I was planning on doing tiles on the steps and tanning ledge but this is a great idea to help them stand out. Wish I could see it in person! Maybe we do need a Texas pool tour!
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    I was quoted the same as Suzy $350.00 for the whole pool area and spa. Kelly's son told me the best way to apply it is: do not mix it in the plaster but only just sprinkle it on the surface of the plaster so you don't loose some under the plaster.

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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    I am all over a pool tour!!!

    I think I'll be happy with them just on the tanning shelf and spa. I'm worried about blue granite not being very pretty in the shallow areas, I think this will make me happy!

    I'm pretty sure my PB thinks we are alcoholics, seems every time he pops in, someone is here & we are out toasting the pool . I just might try to butter him up. Maybe some homemade baked goods . . .
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    The way to a man's heart is through his stomach.
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    Well, you do need them at least on the steps. The shells offset the grey tone on shallow water on steps, and do make it more interesting. They threw the shells in last on top of pebble install and left for day. The next day they came with the acid wash. Suddenly there were little stars everywhere where there was reflection from sun exposure. However, I think $150 is really high just for steps. Maybe some others can pop in with their experience on pricing of the shells. I just can't believe it varies this much between DFW and Houston area builders/PebbleTech Contractors. ****, it just doesn't make sense to me. It makes me think the PB company is taking a cut off the sale of some shells that the PT contractor throws in for a lower wholesale price. Someone has to know the true mark up price of a bag of the shells. Not sure it's the same type, but I decided to do a little research. There are several oother discussion threads out there concerning the price differentials on shells between builders.

    Did you have the same PB as Suz? Isn't he the guy that is so prevalent out on the GardenWeb Pool links and information forums? Maybe instead of one drink, a full bottle of Patron in exchange? Isn't Tito's made in Texas? http://www.titosvodka.com/ I still believe in good ole TX charm and intervention! How could he resist? Is he the type that can be bribed....err charmed?
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    lol - I do have a stocked liquor cabinet! That was what my gut was telling me - I needed some sparkle for the shallowest areas. I went with a different builder than Suz, but I did interview hers and loved him - he was in my top two. For $150 I am getting the spa and tanning ledge. For some reason, it feels like a fair deal for me. I am sure that the builder is getting his fair share of an upcharge - but I wouldn't really expect him to give me something at cost. Though I sure wouldn't object if he did!!!!

    UPDATE - we are getting our PebbleSheen done THIS WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!!!! WAHOO!!!
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    I asked my PB about adding to my wet edge and he said it makes the warranty void! I'm bummed
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    Amanda? Adding the sparkle to wet edge voids the warranty? Why? How is wet edge different than what she is using?

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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    I'm planning on adding the shells also. For 350.00 its really a no brainer. Congrats on the plaster date. I'm still waiting for decking

    Take care.

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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    I wonder if she means they don't warranty the actual shells? Apparently they lose sparkle over time. Maybe that's it?
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    Re: Anyone add Abalone shells to PT ONLY on Tanning Ledge and Spa?

    I'm not sure. I'm gonna call wetedge today. She said since you are changing their formula it voids the warranty. Not sure if it does or they don't want to do it. Lol
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