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    So embarrassed...Defeating the Giant Green Monster

    My pool is green, dark green.

    At what point is it better to drain and start over? I can't believe it got this bad. Life has been hectic the last several months and before I knew it I had a swamp on my hands.

    Edited to add: full set of test results and pics

    Fc- 0
    Cc- 0
    Ph- 8.2
    Ta- 80
    Ch- 80
    Cya- 25

    -Julie
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    First thing is get a good test kit and post the results...doubt you have to waste all that water !!!

    Then read Pool School
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    If there are several inches of solid debris in the pool, then yes drain/dredge and start over. Otherwise it is best to leave the water in and SLAM the pool.
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    I see you have the TF-100, How is your CYA level? That looks like a lot of gallons to drain!

    Why not a green to clean SLAM?

    You're either going to be paying for the water or paying for the bleach. Well either way since most times it's not safe to drain completely you'll need to SLAM.

    I think the first request of everyone here is going to be....


    or maybe a picture.

    *edit*

    and don't be embarassed! Life happens. On the bright side, green pools make for stunning rehab pics!
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    Give me a few to get pics and a full set of tests.
    -Julie
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    Added test results and link to pics in first post.
    -Julie
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    I'm no expert - but SLAM SLAM SLAM - IMHO your water is salvageable, assuming you don't have 5" of solid debris, etc.
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    I've often wondered about the drain/refill vs. SLAM approach. I barely noticed the cost of the 9,200 gallons of water required to fill my pool when it was new, and I don't believe I have an issue with a shallow water table. In any event, it only took about 10 hours to fill my pool. Could the pool shell pop up in such a short time?

    While I don't see it happening, if I ever really let it go and ended up with a swamp, I'd be inclined to drain/refill--especially with a cartridge filter. If it just turned a little green or cloudy, I'd SLAM it. My only concern is the water table issue.

    I suppose the water table can change, but there clearly was not a problem when my pool was built.
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    You have a very HIGH water table in Houston. That's what will make a shell pop out. Too much water too close to the surface.
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    Quote Originally Posted by toofast View Post
    I'm no expert - but SLAM SLAM SLAM - IMHO your water is salvageable, assuming you don't have 5" of solid debris, etc.
    I definitely don't have 5" of debris. I guess I'm going to SLAM it. I'll be updating this thread with pics. I'll more than likely start tomorrow. I need to get a stockpile of bleach going.
    -Julie
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    I have successfully battled a pool that was that bad or worse. It can be done:

    http://www.troublefreepool.com/threa...-Algae-Success

    In addition to everything else, I would highly recommend taking the steps out while you SLAM. They are a trap for debris and poor circulation.

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    Re: So embarrassed....

    Quote Originally Posted by woodyp View Post
    You have a very HIGH water table in Houston. That's what will make a shell pop out. Too much water too close to the surface.
    Would that have been apparent when they dug the hole? It was dry as a bone down to 6 feet (my pool is 4.5 feet at the deep end) when my pool was excavated in Aug. 2010.
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    My pool looked that way when I uncovered it on Saturday. I started the SLAM process on Sunday once the pool was full of water. 24 hours later its looking so much better but the bad part is I've been having to backwash my DE filter every 3-4 hours so at night I just bypass the filter and get it going again in the morning. I'd give my pool another couple of days and maybe 40 more pounds of DE and I'll be there . I was disgusted yesterday and much happier today with all the hard work I put in (scrubbing the walls, cleaning the robot, checking the FC, adding bleach, and lots of backwashing the filter).
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    Water may be cheap here but I know that the aquifer that we are using locally is 40,000 year old water. And it is refilling at about half the rate we are draining it.
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    The first step in SLAMing the pool is to lower the PH to around 7.2 to 7.4. Full instructions are in the How To section of Pool School.
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonLion View Post
    The first step in SLAMing the pool is to lower the PH to around 7.2 to 7.4. Full instructions are in the How To section of Pool School.
    That's my very first step tomorrow morning. I've helped friends with the SLAM process before (ironic?). I bought all of the bleach my local walmart had (17 jugs), I'll send DH out tomorrow to the next town over to pick up as much as he can. We're going to need it!
    -Julie
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    But it at Sam's if you have one close by. $8.19 for 3 Clorox brand jugs (121 oz each at 8.25%).
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    Quote Originally Posted by RUSigX View Post
    But it at Sam's if you have one close by. $8.19 for 3 Clorox brand jugs (121 oz each at 8.25%).
    The closest Sam's is an hour away, and we aren't members. We use Costco, but it's just as far, so it's not really cost effective unless we're in the area already.
    -Julie
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    Good Luck Jules! I'm surprised my pool didn't turn to a swamp last year right after I put it up. Heck I'm surprised I even got the pool up because of life (my husband was in a motorcycle accident right before install and I was taking care of him afterward along with the pool! I almost didn't cover it because I was tired but I did and I'm so glad I did!) Don't be embarrassed. You seem to know what you need to do.
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    Re: So embarrassed....

    Yep no reason to be embarrassed ! It's only pool water and it's fixable. We'll help ya. 😎
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