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Seems like we may need to settle this TFP vs. Ecosmarte method in Braveheart fashion. Rally the troops!

The thumb-method is just fine!

Looking forward to seeing the progress, and that's quite a nice lot you have to work with. Keep the pics coming!

White quartz may be a solid middle ground for your job. You get the durability of quartz but retain the white surface for good lighting. My good friend just replastered last fall and went with a white quartz finish. You have to look closely but you can see the grey speckled quartz in the...

Should be a pretty awesome pool! Most of the equipment is a little marked up over what you can purchase it for yourself, but nothing drastic. You may want to consider 3 LED lights (2 pool, 1 spa), especially since $450 is a pretty good price for them. The LED lights are a cool feature but...

Re: UPDATED - Concrete Poured on SJ Build - Pictures included I like that stamp!

Added more deck - the water is super cloudy here because of the Cool Deck over-spray. Lots of landscaping coming this week - finally turning it into a usable back yard as opposed a a dirt lot. The only time I like the pool looking green:

Will send a PM today! I'll send you what I have and that will definitely help you in the right direction. I will post some current pictures soon - added more decking and some landscaping is going in this week!

Same. Definitely took some time to dissolve in the sock placed in the skimmer, but it did the job just fine and was much cheaper than the pool store (NPS) right next door.

There is something to be said about keeping the crews happy. When they feel appreciated, I've seen them go the 'extra mile' to return the favor. It's human nature to reward kindness, and from what I experienced, the construction workers are not an exception! I tried to keep a cooler of...

Re: New Pool Started! Very cool! My backyard looked the same way when I started - my gf's father called it "lunar landscaping" lol. It's a process, but take plenty of pictures. Good luck!

How they were 1'3" short on the deep end is beyond me. The amount to deduct kind of depend on how much you owe!

PM sent. Good luck!

8 here on 8ft diameter spa, and I'd recommend 8 if you can do it. It was a paltry $50 difference to change from 6 to 8 jets when bidding out the plumbing aspect of construction. You should be able to get your PB to make that change for next to nothing, especially if they know you're privy to...

Those dark colors are really sweet. Love how that looks!

Compare warranties between the others you interview to see if his salesmanship pitch holds water. Tell him if he only does chlorine pools than a SWG should not be a problem ;) How long of a warranty does he offer on the equipment? I don't see how a SWG should void a warranty on the other...

Got a really good manual vaccuum clean yesterday, and today it's windier than ****! Riddled with leaves and dirt until this wind subsides....

Regarding the SWG, an easy swap would be the Pentair dummy cell which is designed for winter when the SWG is not running anyhow. I'm sure you can pvc cheaper but this keeps your options open down the road. http://www.amazon.com/Pentair-520588-Replacement-Sanitizer-Automation/dp/B004VU8A1Q

$115 in your pool pump alone is quite high. My VS pump uses about 7kwh/day assuming the wattage is correct on the screen display. That's about 210kwh/month. Even at your high $.24/kWh that would only equate to about $50. Have a coworker who runs his VS pump for 13 hours per day, 6-4 at...

Those tablets aren't cheap, either! I wonder how much you'll spend in tablets over the course of 24 months. I'm also Las Vegas - what salt cell do/did you have?

A quick and easy way is to plug the part number into Google shopping and sort by total price, low to high. Obviously, you'll want to make sure the company is legit - but most of the big online pool supply companies (ones listed above, plus others like inyopoools, backyardpoolsupply, etc) will...

I would have a talk with the pool builder about some of these prices. Some of the costs I can't comment on because I don't know the specifics. If you are ok with them, no worries, but much of the equipment and charges are severely marked up. I know this isn't what you want to read/hear - but...

Awesome view Royd. You have a great view to work with! This build will never get old. What a masterpiece.

If your pool builder is quoting you outrageous prices for the 5G lights, see if they'll price match online stores. I had a friend get a quote from a PB for (2) 5G Pentair pool lights and (1) Pentair 5G spa light and the price was $3000 (no labor)! I nearly fell out of my chair. Price gouging...

I have amassed pretty good list of local subcontractors if you are looking for referrals. How far along are you, meaning have you received excavation bids, etc? Let me know if you'd like the info and I can shoot you a PM. Good luck!

PM sent! Hope all goes well, let me know if you need any help / recommendations!

Re: New Owner/Build - IG Pool sloped yard - Riverside County Southern California Beautiful work! Made my day to come back here and see how much progress you've made as well as how good it's looking. Keep it up, going to be awesome.

I have to pass this along and also thank Vudoo222 for pointing out this sale - you can see a good picture of his umbrella in his build thread here: http://www.troublefreepool.com/threads/78346-New-DIY-Pool-in-Phoenix/page5 10' Market Umbrella with Premium Sunbrella Fabric - Now, you'll...

No, no, no. I know that's not the response you're looking for, but it's good you're speaking up. The waviness would be my biggest issue!