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amindu786

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Oct 1, 2021
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DFW
Pool Size
12086
Surface
Plaster
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Jandy Aquapure 1400
Hi All - I have started the process of gathering quotes and thus far have narrowed it down to 1 pool builder, pair of ex-cops. Below is everything they have detailed, if I can get some guidance on what is good vs what needs to be updated or is overkill, and simply paying a higher price for something not needed please let me know. Thanks.

Pool Perimeter =90
Pool Sq Ft =450
Gallons = 10,368
15x30
Salt Water - no Spa
Tanning Ledge with 2 bubblers

Pool construction:
- Rebar structure is comprised of #4 rebar on 10" o.c. (Extra bars
in the floor and breaks) with a 4-bar beam and double wrapped
skimmer cavity.
- Pool shell is comprised of wet mix shotcrete. Minimum 4500 psi
and applied by certified personnel. We do not use dry mix gunite
due to its inconsistent application and inherent weaknesses.
Limited lifetime warranty on pool shell.
- All coping material is a minimum of 5cm in thickness.
- Main drain and skimmer lines are 2.5" SCH 40 PVC, return lines
are 1.5” and 2" SCH 40 PVC. All plumbing is run outside of the pool
shell to prevent compromising the rigidity of the pool shell.
Extra GFCI outlet at Pad

Pool Steel
Structural steel is #4 (1/2") rebar, 10" o.c. with a 12" x 12" 4 bar
beam.
Deck dowls are #3 (3/8") rebar.
Proper bonding with #8 bare copper wire and DB bonding clamps.

Tile - level 2 ceramic
Coping - Travertine
Plaster - Wet Edge pebble finish
Pool Equipment -
Drain Pots
CTM-25-0001 / 25521-000-000
2"FPT SIDE WHITE 8" MAIN DRAIN SUMP - 2 Each

SLIP U-3 SKIMMER W/O FLOAT
STA-25-1063 / 08650-6404 GRY 2" - 2 Each

EPUMP VS PUMP W/ 2 AUX RELAYS
TLD-10-2133 / VSSHP270DV2A 2.7HP 115/230VAC

CV580 580SQF CV SERIES CARTRIDGE FILTER
TLD-05-118 / CV580 580SQF CV SERIES CARTRIDGE FILTER

2-PORT CPVC NEVERLUBE VALVE
JDY-56-4054 / 4716 12/CS 2"-2.5"- 4 Each

STRAIGHT CPVC CHECK VALVE
JDY-56-4084 / 7305 12/CS 2"-2.5"- 1 Each

Polaris Freedom Cordless Robotic Cleaner
Freedom Cordless Robotic Cleaner
POL-20-0005 / FR550CBR

CLEAR WATER STOP ADAPTER FITTING
SPG-251-1183 / 25575-509-000 1.5"FPTxS

Heat Pump/Chiller - Either Jandy Versatemp JRT2000 or Aquacal SQ120

Automation for Salt (Per PB i need this for it to be a Salt pool)
IQ906-PS-PC-SWC Jandy Salt System
Jandy Aqualink® RS PS6 Pool and Spa Kit with PureLink Sub
Panel, PLC1400 and iAqualink
JDY-30-1743 / IQ906-PS-PC-SWC

INTERMATIC PX300 TRANSFORMER

100' RGBW NICHELESS LED LIGHT - HYDROCOOL
JDY-30-0709 / JLU4C24W100 24W 12V - 2 each

Thank you so much for the help.
 
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The Crosswind has less then half the heating/cooling ability of the Jandy or Aquacal so it should cost less.

Inquire as to who does local service and warranty support for each of the units. You don’t want a unit that no one in your area services.
 
ajw22 said:
The Crosswind has less then half the heating/cooling ability of the Jandy or Aquacal so it should cost less.

Inquire as to who does local service and warranty support for each of the units. You don’t want a unit that no one in your area services.
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For AquaCal and Jandy there are 20+ servicers within a 30 mile radius. Thanks
 
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ajw22 said:
If you are not getting automation I would get the Aquacal.
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I am being told if i want to do a Salt pool I have to get automation for it to work more precisely, below is what is currently showing on the proposal.

IQ906-PS-PC-SWC Jandy Salt System
Jandy Aqualink® RS PS6 Pool and Spa Kit with PureLink Sub Panel, PLC1400 and iAqualinkJDY-30-1743 / IQ906-PS-PC-SWC
 
There is no requirement for an Aqualink system to have the Jandy Aquapure SWG system, or salt systems from other vendors.

I don’t know why your builder is giving you an Aqualink Pool & Spa bundle that includes two actuators when you don’t have a spa.

That said, if you are getting the Aqualink system then get the Jandy HP.

If you want to discuss your pool equipment more then give us a complete description of your pool and equipment.
 
ajw22 said:
There is no requirement for an Aqualink system to have the Jandy Aquapure SWG system, or salt systems from other vendors.

I don’t know why your builder is giving you an Aqualink Pool & Spa bundle that includes two actuators when you don’t have a spa.

That said, if you are getting the Aqualink system then get the Jandy HP.

If you want to discuss your pool equipment more then give us a complete description of your pool and equipment.
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Thanks i will create a new post. Aquacal has 2 year parts/labor and 7 year compressor vs Jandy 2 year parts/labor and 5 year compressor warranty, you would still lean towards Jandy HP? Thanks
 
amindu786 said:
Thanks i will create a new post.
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Keep all the posts about your pool construction in this thread.


amindu786 said:
Aquacal has 2 year parts/labor and 7 year compressor vs Jandy 2 year parts/labor and 5 year compressor warranty, you would still lean towards Jandy HP? Thanks
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If you get the Aqualink then get the Jandy HP. It ensures the HP will work best with the automation controls. And you will have Jandy support for any interface problems.
 
Hi All - I have started the process of gathering quotes and thus far have narrowed it down to 1 pool builder, pair of ex-cops. Below is everything they have detailed, if I can get some guidance on what is good vs what needs to be updated or is overkill, and simply paying a higher price for something not needed please let me know. Thanks.

Pool Perimeter =90
Pool Sq Ft =450
Gallons = 10,368
15x30
Salt Water - no Spa
Tanning Ledge with 2 bubblers

Pool construction:
- Rebar structure is comprised of #4 rebar on 10" o.c. (Extra bars
in the floor and breaks) with a 4-bar beam and double wrapped
skimmer cavity.
- Pool shell is comprised of wet mix shotcrete. Minimum 4500 psi
and applied by certified personnel. We do not use dry mix gunite
due to its inconsistent application and inherent weaknesses.
Limited lifetime warranty on pool shell.
- All coping material is a minimum of 5cm in thickness.
- Main drain and skimmer lines are 2.5" SCH 40 PVC, return lines
are 1.5” and 2" SCH 40 PVC. All plumbing is run outside of the pool
shell to prevent compromising the rigidity of the pool shell.
Extra GFCI outlet at Pad

Pool Steel
Structural steel is #4 (1/2") rebar, 10" o.c. with a 12" x 12" 4 bar
beam.
Deck dowls are #3 (3/8") rebar.
Proper bonding with #8 bare copper wire and DB bonding clamps.

Tile - level 2 ceramic
Coping - Travertine
Plaster - Wet Edge pebble finish
Pool Equipment -
Drain Pots
CTM-25-0001 / 25521-000-000
2"FPT SIDE WHITE 8" MAIN DRAIN SUMP - 2 Each

SLIP U-3 SKIMMER W/O FLOAT
STA-25-1063 / 08650-6404 GRY 2" - 2 Each

EPUMP VS PUMP W/ 2 AUX RELAYS
TLD-10-2133 / VSSHP270DV2A 2.7HP 115/230VAC

CV580 580SQF CV SERIES CARTRIDGE FILTER
TLD-05-118 / CV580 580SQF CV SERIES CARTRIDGE FILTER

2-PORT CPVC NEVERLUBE VALVE
JDY-56-4054 / 4716 12/CS 2"-2.5"- 4 Each

STRAIGHT CPVC CHECK VALVE
JDY-56-4084 / 7305 12/CS 2"-2.5"- 1 Each

Polaris Freedom Cordless Robotic Cleaner
Freedom Cordless Robotic Cleaner
POL-20-0005 / FR550CBR

CLEAR WATER STOP ADAPTER FITTING
SPG-251-1183 / 25575-509-000 1.5"FPTxS

Heat Pump/Chiller - Either Jandy Versatemp JRT2000 or Aquacal SQ120

Automation for Salt (Per PB i need this for it to be a Salt pool)
IQ906-PS-PC-SWC Jandy Salt System
Jandy Aqualink® RS PS6 Pool and Spa Kit with PureLink Sub
Panel, PLC1400 and iAqualink
JDY-30-1743 / IQ906-PS-PC-SWC

INTERMATIC PX300 TRANSFORMER

100' RGBW NICHELESS LED LIGHT - HYDROCOOL
JDY-30-0709 / JLU4C24W100 24W 12V - 2 each

Thank you so much for the help.
 

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You do not need the EPump model with 2 Aux relays when you get the Aqualink. You use the AUX relays on the Aqualink and not the pump.

You do not need the Aqualink pool/spa bundle if you don’t have a spa.

Unless Jandy has some special pricing where that stuff is less then the simpler equipment you need there are unnecessary costs for the pump with AUX relays and the pool/spa bundle.

With a VS pump, heater/chiller HP, and color changing lights the iAqualink app will make managing your pool much easier. Aqualink is not required but you will need to control the individual devices at the equipment pad without Aqualink.
 

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ajw22 said:
You do not need the EPump model with 2 Aux relays when you get the Aqualink. You use the AUX relays on the Aqualink and not the pump.

You do not need the Aqualink pool/spa bundle if you don’t have a spa.

Unless Jandy has some special pricing where that stuff is less then the simpler equipment you need there are unnecessary costs for the pump with AUX relays and the pool/spa bundle.

With a VS pump, heater/chiller HP, and color changing lights the iAqualink app will make managing your pool much easier. Aqualink is not required but you will need to control the individual devices at the equipment pad without Aqualink.
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Gotcha so for the automation on their website they have AQUALINK® TCX POOL ONLY AUTOMATION SYSTEM which can control Salt as well and is about 60% less, this would be sufficient?

If not the E-Pump which pump should i ask for, can you share a model or description so i can look it up? Thanks.
 
amindu786 said:
Gotcha so for the automation on their website they have AQUALINK® TCX POOL ONLY AUTOMATION SYSTEM which can control Salt as well and is about 60% less, this would be sufficient?
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The TCX is a low end automation system that will not control your HP heater/chiller.

If they are an authorized Jandy dealer they can configure the Aqualink for your equipment. See…

AquaLink RS Pool & Spa Automation System | Jandy

Looking for a Smart Pool Controller? Find the AquaLink Automation System for the Perfect Pool Experience. Buy AquaLink iQ90X Combo Kits Now w/ a Pool Pro Near You!
www.jandy.com www.jandy.com

 
amindu786 said:
If not the E-Pump which pump should i ask for, can you share a model or description so i can look it up? Thanks.
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Looks like the EPump only comes with relays…

Jandy Pro Series ePump: Energy Efficient Pump System | Jandy

Looking for a Jandy Pro Series ePump? This Energy Efficient Pump System will bring the Perfect Pool Experience. Buy Now w/ a Pool Pro Near you!
www.jandy.com www.jandy.com

Jandy has FloPro pumps without relays. I don’t know their pricing to say what would be the best deal…

Variable-Speed Pumps | Jandy

Build the perfect pool environment with Jandy professional-grade equipment. With a full line of pumps, filters, heaters, lights, valves, water sanitizers, and the automation solutions to control it all, Jandy has the complete package for any pool.
www.jandy.com www.jandy.com
 
pjt said:
What are the depths?

Have you thought about relocating the sun shelf to create a swim lane on the long axis of the pool?
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its 3.5 to 5ft

Do you mean like having a kick-out for the sun shelf? if so yes but it added too much to cost.
 
ajw22 said:
The TCX is a low end automation system that will not control your HP heater/chiller.

If they are an authorized Jandy dealer they can configure the Aqualink for your equipment. See…

AquaLink RS Pool & Spa Automation System | Jandy

Looking for a Smart Pool Controller? Find the AquaLink Automation System for the Perfect Pool Experience. Buy AquaLink iQ90X Combo Kits Now w/ a Pool Pro Near You!
www.jandy.com www.jandy.com

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i now understand what you are saying, thanks.
 
amindu786 said:
Maybe i am confused but i thought the RS Pool and Spa was overkill considering i did not have a spa so the model they have quoted i should keep? and only change the pump out?
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Jandy has pool only version of the Aqualink at less cost. And the pool/spa bundle they quoted includes two actuators you don’t need unless they are keeping them and giving you credit for them.
 
ajw22 said:
Looks like the EPump only comes with relays…

Jandy Pro Series ePump: Energy Efficient Pump System | Jandy

Looking for a Jandy Pro Series ePump? This Energy Efficient Pump System will bring the Perfect Pool Experience. Buy Now w/ a Pool Pro Near you!
www.jandy.com www.jandy.com

Jandy has FloPro pumps without relays. I don’t know their pricing to say what would be the best deal…

Variable-Speed Pumps | Jandy

Build the perfect pool environment with Jandy professional-grade equipment. With a full line of pumps, filters, heaters, lights, valves, water sanitizers, and the automation solutions to control it all, Jandy has the complete package for any pool.
www.jandy.com www.jandy.com
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Sorry i just realized i forgot to mention i have 2 bubblers on the tanning ledge does that change anything from the pump or automation aspect? Thanks
 
amindu786 said:
Sorry i just realized i forgot to mention i have 2 bubblers on the tanning ledge does that change anything from the pump or automation aspect? Thanks
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One of the actuators in the bundle can be used to automatically control the bubblers.

Another reason for the Aqualink and not the TCX unit.
 

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