SolarTouch and IntelliFlo i2 not working together

mlaplanet

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Feb 23, 2024
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Englewood, FL
I recently purchased a SolarTouch control unit and a IntelleFlo i2 pump to retrofit an old single speed pump and manual solar valve. I installed the pump first and ran the system manually (manual speed control on the pump and manually redirected the flow to the solar panels). Everything worked fine.

I then installed the SolarTouch (ST), motorized valve and connected the communication cable. I set the program on the pump to start at 12:01 AM and off at 12:00 PM, (although I also have a mechanical timer set for 8 AM and 5 PM on and off time respectively) and set the program speeds 1 - 4 to what the SolarTouch uses; 1 for normal non-solar heat speed, 3 for solar heat, and 4 for Solar Hold. I fired everything up, set the SolarTouch to heat, set the desired pool water temperature up to 88 deg (to ensure it was way over my pool water temp). It was a warm day and the air/roof temperature was high enough to enable the SolarTouch to call for solar heat. Everything appeared to be working fine, ST displayed Solar Hold, pump went into speed 4, 5 minutes later the control valve opened, and 5 minutes after that the pump went to speed 3. I ran the system on 8am-5pm auto for a couple of days. It had been a cold and cloudy winter down on the west coast of florida, so when the frequent clouds came, the roof temperature dropped and the system stopped calling for solar heat and the pump went to speed 1. I was happy.

A week or two later, on a sunny day, later in the afternoon I heard the pump stop then a bit later go back into prime. After prime, the solar touch again called for heat and performed all the normal stuff again. About an hour later the pump shut down again, restarted and again started the solar heat routine. I thought it was odd, but also though that the wind hit the temperature sensor and that is what shut the pump off. This went on for the next couple of weeks. I was out near the pool pump area sometime after and the pump shut down again, and I was close enough to look at the pump and Solar Touch displays. The pump was showing an over current, and the Solar Touch was showing a red blinking light (communications error) then restarted. I shut it all down, disconnected the comms cable, cycled power on the pump and it started up and ran normally. The shutdown happend many times the next week or so. During normal solar heating, the pump was drawing approximately 750 watts and 2500 rpm which was normal, the pressure on the filter was about 10 lbs with the array about 12 - 15 feet above on the roof. The pump stainer was filled and no bubbles.

I did a manual check by disconnecting the ST comms cable from the pump, set the manual speed to 3 (2500 rpm), manually switched the control valve to open for solar heat and ran 8am -5pm for 5 days straight with absolutely no issues with the pump. I reconnected the ST cable and ran it again and yes, it shut down, this time the pump went into prime, then to speed 1 for a second, then shut down for about a second, them back to prime. It repeated this 6 or 7 times before I shut the sytem down. With the ST comms disconnected, the pump ran fine the rest of the day.

I called Pentair service, and of-course the 6 week warranty period had expired... I asked the technician what would be the likely cause and after describing the situation, told me he suspected the ST control board.

Any suggestions on what I can do or check? Anyone else have this sort of problem? Thanks...
 
The pump was showing an over current, and the Solar Touch was showing a red blinking light (communications error) then restarted. I shut it all down, disconnected the comms cable, cycled power on the pump and it started up and ran normally. The shutdown happend many times the next week or so.
Did the pump show overcurrent in each shutdown? If so, there could be something wrong the pump. If there is something stuck in the impeller, the pump could draw more energy than it's rating.

During normal solar heating, the pump was drawing approximately 750 watts and 2500 rpm which was normal, the pressure on the filter was about 10 lbs with the array about 12 - 15 feet above on the roof. The pump stainer was filled and no bubbles.
When solar first turns on, is the pump ramped up to a speed higher than 2500 RPM?

I did a manual check by disconnecting the ST comms cable from the pump, set the manual speed to 3 (2500 rpm), manually switched the control valve to open for solar heat and ran 8am -5pm for 5 days straight with absolutely no issues with the pump.
The pump was running at 2500 RPM correct? No priming sequence involved?

I reconnected the ST cable and ran it again and yes, it shut down, this time the pump went into prime, then to speed 1 for a second, then shut down for about a second, them back to prime. It repeated this 6 or 7 times before I shut the sytem down. With the ST comms disconnected, the pump ran fine the rest of the day.
Again, this could be due to the pump priming cycle.

I called Pentair service, and of-course the 6 week warranty period had expired... I asked the technician what would be the likely cause and after describing the situation, told me he suspected the ST control board.
Possibly but I would rule any issues with the pump. An easy test is to just turn on the pump at full speed and see if it shuts down again.
 
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Did the pump show overcurrent in each shutdown? If so, there could be something wrong the pump. If there is something stuck in the impeller, the pump could draw more energy than it's rating. The pump only showed overcurrent when being controlled by the SolarTouch. Once I disconnected the communication cable, it ran normally


When solar first turns on, is the pump ramped up to a speed higher than 2500 RPM? No, I set the prime and maximum speed to 2500 rpm


The pump was running at 2500 RPM correct? No priming sequence involved? Yes, 2500. It would prime after each overcurrent shutdown (when connected to the SolarTouch).


Again, this could be due to the pump priming cycle.


Possibly but I would rule any issues with the pump. An easy test is to just turn on the pump at full speed and see if it shuts down again. As I mentioned, The pump runs normally when not connected to the SolarTouch or when connected with the solar heat disabled. I have run the solar heat manually for weeks now with absolutely no pump issues.

My thoughts are that there is a conflict with the pump trying to run it's schedule when the SolarTouch tries to override that with it's communications (I have the pump set to run speed 1 from 12:01AM to 11:59PM - but override that with a mechanical timer that is set from 8 AM to 5 PM). On initial power-up, the pool pump starts in Prime mode and will go to the scheduled program 1 speed (1225 rpm). If/when the SolarTouch calls for heat, the pump speed ramps up to 2450 for Solar Hold (program 4), then opens the valve after 5 minutes and eventually sets the speed to 2425 rpm (program 3). It then may run for an hour or two (or more) when the pump suddenly shuts down and the SolarTouch closes the Solar Valve. After ~20 seconds, the pump restarts in Prime mode then shuts down again once it goes to schedule 1.

I contacted Pentair, and the technician told me that it is probably the SolarTouch that is causing the problem, but will not replace it because of their limited warranty.
 
My thoughts are that there is a conflict with the pump trying to run it's schedule when the SolarTouch tries to override that with it's communications (I have the pump set to run speed 1 from 12:01AM to 11:59PM - but override that with a mechanical timer that is set from 8 AM to 5 PM).
Why are you doing that? VS pumps with timers don't need a mechanical timer and it is generally not a good idea to do that. Cutting off the power can mess with the programming of the pump.

On initial power-up, the pool pump starts in Prime mode and will go to the scheduled program 1 speed (1225 rpm). If/when the SolarTouch calls for heat, the pump speed ramps up to 2450 for Solar Hold (program 4), then opens the valve after 5 minutes and eventually sets the speed to 2425 rpm (program 3). It then may run for an hour or two (or more) when the pump suddenly shuts down and the SolarTouch closes the Solar Valve.
Does the valve close before the pump shuts down or after? Where do you have the water temperature sensor and the solar temperature sensor located?
 
Why are you doing that? VS pumps with timers don't need a mechanical timer and it is generally not a good idea to do that. Cutting off the power can mess with the programming of the pump. I will disable the mechanical timer and run it off of the IntelliFlow.


Does the valve close before the pump shuts down or after? Where do you have the water temperature sensor and the solar temperature sensor located? The valve closes after the pump shuts down
 
Hi mas985, I disabled the mechanical timer and scheduled my IntelliFlo 2i to run program 1 from 8 AM through 5 PM daily. The SolarTouch and Pump combo now runs without any shutdowns! The only new thing that happens is that twice now, the pump did not shut down at it's scheduled time of 5 PM on the second day. I pressed the Run/Stop button to stop it (manually), then pressed the Run/Stop to restart. The pump stayed off and started up normally the next morning. It ran all the next day with the SolarTouch calling for heat and shut down that night at the scheduled 5PM time. The following day, however, it started normally - ran solar heat until around 4 PM (cloudy and cooler in the afternoon) when it turned off solar heat and the pump went back to program speed 1, but again, it failed to shut off at the scheduled 5 PM time. Any idea why it would do that or anything I can try? Thanks