Proper procedure for removing/filling in a fiberglass pool

al27

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Sep 11, 2017
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TN
We have been getting estimates to remove/fill in our 21-year-old fiberglass pool. It looks like the pool wasn't backfilled correctly 21-years ago and that is why we keep experiencing leaks and cracks in the coping and deck. People on here probably think we are nuts for wanting to remove a pool that would probably cost 80K-100K to build right now but we don't use the pool any more now that the kids are grown and a real estate agent says that our home will be easier to sell someday if the pool is gone since older pools tend to scare off buyers and don't add much value to homes here. We are tired of fishing dead critters and leaves out of our pool and wasting money on repairs and maintenance so we think its time to go ahead and remove the pool. One of our neighbors is getting a pool installed and has agreed to give us their dirt for free, so it looks like we can get the pool removed for approximately 6K-10K.

I have a feeling that the next owner of our home will want a pool since we have the perfect size lot for one (1.5 acres) and most of our neighbors have inground pools. I want to make sure we fill this pool in correctly so a prospective buyer who wants a pool won't be hesitant to buy our home. I know that we need to get all of the fiberglass removed, but I'm getting different opinions on whether or not it is okay to bury the concrete deck in the hole. One company wants to remove and trash the fiberglass shell, break up the concrete deck and use the broken pieces as part of the fill. They will then fill the rest of the hole with dirt and rocks in layers, and compact it along the way. We will be keeping 80% of the decking for our patio furniture so there won't be a large quantity of concrete that would be put in the hole. Another company says that all of the concrete needs to be removed to prevent settlement and sinkholes and make it so another pool can be easily installed in the same spot someday. This estimate is higher because of the cost for concrete removal and additional costs for dirt.

I've been told that its not necessary to remove the underground piping, since a lot of it is covered up by landscaping right now. They will disconnect the electrical and cap the gas line at the equipment end before removing the pool. The sand from the sand filter will be thrown in the hole. No permits or inspections are required in our town to remove the pool.

Does anyone on here know the proper procedure for filling in a fiberglass pool? The companies that I've been dealing with haven't removed many inground pools before and have never removed a fiberglass one so I want to make sure that I hire someone who is following proper procedures.
 
We have been getting estimates to remove/fill in our 21-year-old fiberglass pool. It looks like the pool wasn't backfilled correctly 21-years ago and that is why we keep experiencing leaks and cracks in the coping and deck. People on here probably think we are nuts for wanting to remove a pool that would probably cost 80K-100K to build right now but we don't use the pool any more now that the kids are grown and a real estate agent says that our home will be easier to sell someday if the pool is gone since older pools tend to scare off buyers and don't add much value to homes here. We are tired of fishing dead critters and leaves out of our pool and wasting money on repairs and maintenance so we think its time to go ahead and remove the pool. One of our neighbors is getting a pool installed and has agreed to give us their dirt for free, so it looks like we can get the pool removed for approximately 6K-10K.

I have a feeling that the next owner of our home will want a pool since we have the perfect size lot for one (1.5 acres) and most of our neighbors have inground pools. I want to make sure we fill this pool in correctly so a prospective buyer who wants a pool won't be hesitant to buy our home. I know that we need to get all of the fiberglass removed, but I'm getting different opinions on whether or not it is okay to bury the concrete deck in the hole. One company wants to remove and trash the fiberglass shell, break up the concrete deck and use the broken pieces as part of the fill. They will then fill the rest of the hole with dirt and rocks in layers, and compact it along the way. We will be keeping 80% of the decking for our patio furniture so there won't be a large quantity of concrete that would be put in the hole. Another company says that all of the concrete needs to be removed to prevent settlement and sinkholes and make it so another pool can be easily installed in the same spot someday. This estimate is higher because of the cost for concrete removal and additional costs for dirt.

I've been told that its not necessary to remove the underground piping, since a lot of it is covered up by landscaping right now. They will disconnect the electrical and cap the gas line at the equipment end before removing the pool. The sand from the sand filter will be thrown in the hole. No permits or inspections are required in our town to remove the pool.

Does anyone on here know the proper procedure for filling in a fiberglass pool? The companies that I've been dealing with haven't removed many inground pools before and have never removed a fiberglass one so I want to make sure that I hire someone who is following proper procedures.
Burying the concrete deck and trash is always considered a no-no even if it’s technically legal.
 
Burying the concrete deck and trash is always considered a no-no even if it’s technically legal.
I don't understand why burying a small portion of the concrete deck is a problem. The dirt that we will be getting from our neighbor's yard will be full of rock so what is the difference between concrete and rock? I can understand why trash would be a problem so I definitely won't be doing that.
 
My opinion: Proper removal is proper removal. Get rid of everything (the pool shell, the wiring, the plumbing, etc) if you think someone wants to build a pool in your backyard in the future and/or if you want to remove it properly. A potential buyer would (should?) get freaked out by seeing capped pipes in the backyard of their potential new home, and your local real estate disclosure laws might require you to disclose the rubble in the yard, whether it is buried (unused) plumbing, wires, or slabs of concrete when the house is sold.
 
I don't understand why burying a small portion of the concrete deck is a problem. The dirt that we will be getting from our neighbor's yard will be full of rock so what is the difference between concrete and rock? I can understand why trash would be a problem so I definitely won't be doing that.
If it’s a small deck than an extra $200 to remove it is well worth it. If it’s a large deck than it’s not a small portion.
 
Large chunks of anything create voids for future sink holes.
The contractor who wants to put a small portion of the concrete decking into the hole said that he was going to break up the concrete into small pieces and mix it in with the dirt. I wonder if that would create voids for future sink holes? It is going to cost $3000-$4000 more if I don't use the contractor who wants to put a small portion of the concrete into the hole because they charge extra for concrete removal and I will have to pay to get some extra dirt delivered to the home.
 
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You are between a rock and a hard place. I tend to do stuff right the first time to avoid future headaches.

TN is a full disclosure state. That means you need to disclose any material defects. While the law doesn't state "filled in pool," a filled in pool is typically considered a material defect because it may impact the property's structural integrity, drainage, or future use (they want to put up a guest house with a basement). Full disclosure, I am not a lawyer,...but I think a filled in pool falls under the broader requirement to disclose known issues that could influence a buyer's decision.

You might get a legal opinion before you choose what to do.

All that being said, I would rather (and morally) fill the pool in correctly, and disclose with pictures. The avoidance in this instance is a) avoiding any future action because you didn't disclose, and b) allay any buyer fears, and shorten the time on the market, because you can show it was done properly.

YMMV
 
My opinion: Proper removal is proper removal. Get rid of everything (the pool shell, the wiring, the plumbing, etc) if you think someone wants to build a pool in your backyard in the future and/or if you want to remove it properly. A potential buyer would (should?) get freaked out by seeing capped pipes in the backyard of their potential new home, and your local real estate disclosure laws might require you to disclose the rubble in the yard, whether it is buried (unused) plumbing, wires, or slabs of concrete when the house is sold.
I will have to disclose the removal of the pool when selling the home, even if I remove all of the concrete. We will get the electricity/wires and plumbing at the equipment end removed, but we cannot remove pipes and wires that might be underneath all of the beautiful landscaping around my pool. If someone wants to put a pool in the exact same spot in the future, they would have to remove all of that landscaping anyway so they can get the piping and wires removed at that time. I think I will get some more estimates and see if I can find someone who'd be willing to remove all of the concrete and not charge us $3000-$4000 extra for it.
 
It is going to cost $3000-$4000 more if I don't use the contractor who wants to put a small portion of the concrete into the hole because they charge extra for concrete removal and I will have to pay to get some extra dirt delivered to the home.
Sounds like the deck size is substantial if it costs that much to remove and compensate with fill. My patio guy quoted me $1000 to remove a 20x30 paver patio. It's volume was only a couple yards of dirt, less than $100 worth (plus $50 delivery)
 

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Sounds like the deck size is substantial if it costs that much to remove and compensate with fill. My patio guy quoted me $1000 to remove a 20x30 paver patio. It's volume was only a couple yards of dirt, less than $100 worth (plus $50 delivery)
I removed about 3 tons of concrete/plaster and it was only $300. But I loaded the dumpster myself. I’d tack on an extra $1000 for that labor pretty easily.
 
Sounds like the deck size is substantial if it costs that much to remove and compensate with fill. My patio guy quoted me $1000 to remove a 20x30 paver patio. It's volume was only a couple yards of dirt, less than $100 worth (plus $50 delivery)
I think the extra $3000-$4000 has more to do with the cost of extra dirt than with the cost of disposing of the concrete. Dirt is expensive because you have to pay someone to go get it and they may have to make several trips to get enough of it. I'm getting a good price on the pool removal because I'm getting a bunch of free dirt from my neighbor. I think they are building a smaller pool than ours so we would have to pay for more dirt if none of the concrete is going into the hole. I'm getting another estimate later this week from a fiberglass pool contractor so I'm going to see what he says about the impact of leaving some concrete in the hole.