Pool leaking from pipes or skimmer

May 3, 2018
8
Ottawa/ON/Canada
Pool Size
55000
Surface
Vinyl
Chlorine
Salt Water Generator
SWG Type
Hayward Aqua Rite (T-9)
Hi All,

I have an old above ground pool which is really at the end of it's days, but I'm hoping to squeeze out the rest of this summer with it. The problem is that it has been leaking and just this week the leaking accelerated but I'm not sure from where exactly. The skimmer area has been leaking very slowly for a long time, but I didn't think it was enough to result in such a large drop (2" in 24 hours). The other possibility is that one of the pipes is leaking. Unfortunately, they are buried under asphalt and gravel over about 25' from the pool to the pump and heater shed. I have noticed a dip and cracking of the asphalt over time, but never suspected the pipes leaking as I thought it was just from winter freeze/thaw, but I'm second guessing that.

Anyways, I think my options are to:
1. Replace the skimmer assembly and see if that is the problem, and/or
2. Bypass the filter and return pipes with above ground plumbing to the pump house, or
3. Say goodbye to the pool.

Option 1 feels like an easier DIY job, but I'm not really sure how hard it is to do with the pool full of water and the shape of the liner wall at the skimmer.

Option 2 is more work and I would have to figure out how to get the new lines into the shed (likely need to dig to get under the shed to re-attach to the pump/filter and return jet line.

Anyways, I'm hoping someone can give me an idea of how difficult or expensive this would be as a DIY job. I've attached some pictures for reference on the state of things.
Skimmer and wall (leaking and rusting the wall)
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Pipes from pool going under gravel and asphalt to pool shed
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Cracks and moisture in asphalt
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Pipes into the shed from underneath
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Thank You!
 

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from a safety standpoint I would say the pool is toast.. That rust is completely through the wall..

is this part the liner behind the rust?

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You have very little wall left to hold back the water.. You do not say how big the pool is but lets say it is a 24 foot round pool.. That is 120,000 pounds of water... that is 120,000 pounds of force being held back by a rusted out wall...

Please be careful, where does the skimmer face, is it towards your house or anything that can be damaged by 14,000 gallons of water going towards it?

I think this is beyond fixing, you really need a whole new wall or pool.. I hate to say that because I know you want to use it.. One good thing can come from this, you get to pick out a brand new pool :)

May I suggest a complete resin pool as they will never rust... 24'X54" Saltwater Aurora Round Pool | Above Ground Pools
 
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Thanks for the reply, it's the conclusion I expected, but was hoping for something else of course.

Yes, that is the liner that is showing in those spots. I wonder if I could brace the wall and support the skimmer for the time being?

I was really just hoping to get 3 more months out of the thing for the kids. The pool came with the house and if we replace it, we'd probably go with an in-ground. Unfortunately, a new pool likely won't be for a few years based on availability for installations in my area due to the pandemic.
 
I am all about DIY so I am not sure if this would work but it is out of the box thinking.. :)

About the only thing that you could use would be 6 to 8 cables wrapped around the pool and secured... creating a secondary wall to keep your current wall from taking all the outward force..

This is from Amazon.ca.. this rope will hold 3700 pounds per strand and 8 strands will hold 30,000 pounds of force... I am not an engineer and have no idea how much force the water is pushing out on the wall but I think it is under 30,000 pounds...

3 of these to connect all the cables..

Again, I am no way an engineer and I am not sure if this will work.. please be careful.. when this pols fails it will not be pretty and trust me it will fail....
 
Sorry, but based on your pics... that wall by the skimmer looks like it's (1) finger poke away from catastrophic failure. I believe I can see unsupported liner beneath the skimmer and it's likely there's additional rust between the wall and the liner that you cannot see.
Added force pressing against that wall, created when people get in the pool and swim around are only going to compound your issue. You do NOT want the kids in the pool if/when it fails.

I'm sure it's not what you want to hear but, if it where mine, I'd drain it down & remove it. A 2" drop in water level in 24 hrs is the warning you'll look back on.
I know you don't want to disappoint the kids but, safety should be the primary consideration.

Small leaks lead to big problems... I know, I've had to deal with it myself. If this were just a cosmetic issue or only affected a couple top rails I'd say you could push it a bit longer.

I hope you're able to find another solution (public pool, small Intex) until such time you can rebuild.
Best of luck with your situation.
Respectfully,
Panzer
 
Best to stay on the safe side. When that thing would fail it would not only be a water mess, it would be dangerous for anyone inside it. That could be an ER visit waiting to happen. You could always get a small inflatable pool to tide the kids over for this season. We put up a decent sized inflatable pool next to our actual inground pool while we were waiting on the big one to get renovated. Not the same but at least it's something. I even put a small amount of chemicals in it to keep the water decent, and found a scrap of solar cover that I cut to fit lol. It may be a year or more like you said to get on the schedule to have an inground pool built. We got on the local pool contractors schedule last June/July for a renovation of our Gunite pool, and they just wrapped up that project last Thursday we were originally told it'd be early spring and it would take a week at most. It took multiple weeks, and didn't start till late June. Whenever you have it done plan for delays. Weather and staffing issues were the biggest causes of delays for our project.
 
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