Nope, because a bonding wire should not be insulated and should be bare copper. Of course always possible they did it wrong ....
While a local jurisdiction can modify the code, they usually don't. Bonding requirements are part of the National Electrical Code.Is that determined by local code?
Every pool Ive been around in my area (including my own) has the bonding wire to the pump coming out of the ground as green insulated copper.
Or maybe its bare under ground and at some point they spliced to insulated for protection from evil string trimmers?
680.23
(C) Common Bonding Grid. The metallic parts of a pool, outdoor spa or hot tub specified in 680.26(B) shall be electrically bonded to a common bonding grid by a solid conductor not smaller than 8 AWG. The termination of the bonding conductor shall be made by exothermic welding, or clamps labeled (listed) as being suitable for the purpose. The common bonding grid can consist of any of the following: Figure 680-20 un680-20 680-26C.cdr
(1) The structural reinforcing steel of the concrete pool, outdoor spa or hot tub that is secured by steel tie-wires.
(2) The wall of a bolted or welded metal pool.
(3) A solid copper conductor, insulated, covered or bare, not smaller than 8 AWG
I agree. I had a long explanation written as to why bare copper is better when I looked it up......Interesting ... Insulated makes no sense to me as that defeats the purpose as far as ground contact.
yea, I have never seen insulated wires used, thus my confusion. When in doubt, check the NEC.Bond wires can be insulated as long as they are not part of the perimeter grid. They can be connected to the grid to bond equipment It is very unusual as most pool installers/electricians won't carry it separate for that purpose.
Nope, because a bonding wire should not be insulated and should be bare copper. Of course always possible they did it wrong ....
In your picture, just to the right and above the ground wire is what looks like a dark hole or broken out piece of your aluminum screen framing. Is it possible there was a ground or bonding connection to the structure that tore out, and the only thing that remains is the wire?
Regardless of what is going on ... I would connect it to the bonding system I think.
Bond wires can be insulated as long as they are not part of the perimeter grid. They can be connected to the grid to bond equipment It is very unusual as most pool installers/electricians won't carry it separate for that purpose.
Sorry for the confusion. You and me both...lol.Hi twotix,
I'm kinda confused with your answers.
A pool company installed my Intelliflo VF in 2006 but didn't connect a bonding wire. My Intellflo VFD fried 2 weeks ago and this is when I discovered there was no bonding wire connected to the lug when I removed the pump motor assembly. I didn't know what a bonding wire was quite frankly until this discovery. I recall from years ago a long green wire coming from the ground just outside of my enclosure that was always getting in the way of the trimmer so I cut it off so you see the end piece coming from the ground. I thought maybe it had to do with my solar panels that blew off from Hurricane Charley in 2004. I also capped the solar pipes since the panels were gone.To the suggestion that it might have been a connection to your screening frame, you said yes, but then you said it went over to the pump? Are you saying it did connect to the frame and then, from there, continued onto the pump or did it bypass the screen and go right to the pump?
My StaRite pump blew out in 2006 so a pool company replaced it with an Intelliflo. I don't know if that wire was connected to the StaRite but it was not connected to the Intelliflo as I discovered two weeks ago when it died. Until then, I had never heard of a bonding wire.You mentioned the wire was 12 feet from the pump in your initial post, but didn't say you knew it previously connected to the pump.
Am I understanding correctly that you now remember it connected to the pump.
Correct. It is all new to me. BTW...another poster said not to splice on a bonding wire extension wire if this was it. Do you concur? If that is the case, it sounds like a lost cause without extensive renovation.In your original post it sounded like you weren't sure where it was meant to go?
Thanks for clarifying.
Whatever you do make sure the bonding wire is continuous. Don't splice......
Single solid wire. No gas anywhere. Pretty much all electric down here in FL. Thx.is that wire a single strand or multi strand? do you have a gas line any where near it?
So you suggest splicing an 8 guage wire onto to it and extending it to the pump? Some are indicating it isn't spliceable.Thx.Hook it back up to the pump.
to splice you should not use a twist loc connector, but a split bolt rated for direct burial.Actually I was wrong sometimes inspectors allow splicing to lugs. I made mine continuous