First, let me say HI! I am new to the forum and have been reading it for a bit before registering and posting. I wish I knew of this place when I had my last pool! Anyhoo, I am deciding on 2 PB's and need some input. Some background on the PB is that both companies are reputable and have a good referral from some members of this forum. Cody Pools and Summit Pools in the Austin area. I got both bids in and they are very close to each other so the money isn't a factor at all. Cody is a larger company and build more pools each year, and use sub contractors. Summit is "mom and pop", use an in house crew, and do at least 100 pools a year but about a third of the volume of Cody. Summit has a "swim in 29 days" clause and built a members pool in 24 not counting sundays. Although having it done by the 29th day also is not a factor.
Here are the bids as well as I can translate them..
Summit Pool depth 3'6" to 7' 34' at widest length, 24 ft at widest width Estimated 22K gal
100 Plans, Engineering & Permit
1.00 EA Pool Design Plans
1.00 Permit - City Of Leander
Total Plans, Engineering & Permit 854.00
210 Summit Excavation
1.00 s.f. Rock Excavation to 6 ft. Depth 451' - 500'
1.00 ea Depth Over 6' - 8' / Rock Excavation
1.00 ea Excavate Plumbing Trunk Line
102.00 p.f. Pool Forming to 12"
1.00 EA Paint Pool Layout Before Excavation
Total Summit Excavation 5,715.70
300 Summit Steel
102.00 EA 1/2" Rebar @ 9" O. C. With 4 1/2" Alternates
1.00 FT 1/2" Continuous 4 Bar Box Beam
1.00 EA 20 Ft. Grounding Bars
1.00 EA Love Seats, Benches & Swim Outs
1.00 EA Tanning / Sport Ledge
20.00 EA 3 Ft. Deck Dowels
1.00 EA All Deck Dowels To Be Grounded With Deck Steel
1.00 EA All Rebar, 3/8" x 1/2" is 40 grade
1.00 EA All Steel Tied with # 16 Gauge Anealed Wire
Total Summit Steel 2,657.16
400 Summit Plumbing
1.00 EA Pool Plumbing Run Up To 40'
6.00 EA Pool Returns
1.00 SET Dual Skimmers Tied Together For Equal Suction
1.00 SET Dual Safety Drains
1.00 EA Set Equipment After Pool Deck
1.00 EA Manual Fill Line Connected To Nearest Hosebib
1.00 EA Paint Equipment Plumbing For U V Protection
1.00 EA All Plumbing 8" Deep For Freeze Protection
1.00 EA All Plumbing To Consist Of Sch 40 P V C Piping
1.00 EA Plumbing To Remain On 40 Psi To Insure No Leaks
1.00 EA Jandy Neverlube 3 Way Valves (lifetime Guarantee)
Total Summit Plumbing 1,964.20
600 Pool Equipment
1.00 EA 2 H P Stealth Pump Motor
1.00 EA C L 460 Sq. Ft. Cartridge Filter
1.00 EA All Jandy Pool Equipment comes with 3 Year Warranty
Total Pool Equipment 1,359.08
625 Pool Cleaners
1.00 Polaris 3/4 HP Booster Pump
1.00 EA Polaris 280 - Black Max
1.00 EA 1 Year Warranty on Pool Cleaning System
Total Pool Cleaners 808.86
650 Sanitizing Systems
1.00 EA Aqua Pure Salt System
10.00 EA 40lb Bags Of Salt
1.00 EA Connect Aqua Pure Salt System
1.00 EA Chlorinator Check Valve
Total Sanitizing Systems 1,328.58
800 Gunite
43.00 YDS Gunite Yardage For Pool
1.00 YDS Gunite Bench
2.00 YDS Gunite Set Of Steps
6.00 EA Form Board
1.00 EA Gunite To Consist Of A 6 Sack Mix / Mix on Site
1.00 EA Gunite To Be Shot Monolithically
1.00 EA All Walls & Floors To Be Minimum 8" - 12" Thick
1.00 EA Pool Bond Beam To Be 12" X 12"
Total Gunite 7,237.04
900 Summit Tile & Coping
110.00 FT Standard Tile
102.00 FT Flagstone Coping
1.00 EA Over Flow Line Installation
Total Summit Tile & Coping 3,114.66
1010 Electric Installation - Infinity
1.00 EA Standard 50 Amp Pool System to 50 ft.
1.00 EA Connect Aqua Pure Chlorine Generator
1.00 EA Connect Pool Light to GFCI
Total Electric Installation - Infinity 1,549.40
1050 Electrical Equipment / Components
1.00 EA #8 Ground Wire / Pool Bonding Per Electric Code
8.00 EA Brass Ground Clamps
1.00 EA Pool Colored Lighting - 300 Watt
1.00 EA Double Timeclock W / Freeze Gaurd
Total Electrical Equipment / Components 1,174.86
1200 Summit Pool Decks / Flat Work
399.00 EA Spray Deck
20.00 FT Deck - O - Drain
1.00 EA Load Of Road Base / Grading
125.00 EA 1/2" Colored Mastic
1.00 EA 3/8" Rebar @ 16" O. C.
1.00 EA All Deck Dowels To Grounded with Deck Steel
Total Summit Pool Decks / Flat Work 4,285.56
1300 Clean & Grade
1.00 EA Clean Up Pool Debris
1.00 EA Plaster Prep Interior Of Pool
1.00 EA Acid Wash Deck, Coping & Tile
1.00 EA Load of Chocolate / Sandy Loam
2.00 EA Fence Replacement Per Panel
1.00 EA Complete A Final Grade Of A Minimum 3:1 Ratio Slope
Total Clean & Grade 1,494.50
1700 Irrigation - New / Repairs
1.00 EA No Irrigation Repairs
1.00 EA Manual Watering By Customer Will Be Necessary
Total Irrigation - New / Repairs .00
1750 Landscape
1.00 EA No Landscape Or Sod Replacement
Total Landscape .00
1800 Plaster
1.00 EA Benches / Swim Outs
1.00 EA Tanning / Sport Benches
1,026.00 EA Pebble Sheen Aggregate Plaster
9.00 EA Gray Wall Fittings - 1 1/2"
2.00 EA Gray Anti Vortec Drain Covers
Total Plaster 6,334.85
1900 Pool Start Up
1.00 EA Standard Three Day Start Up
1.00 EA Brush Vacuum All Plaster Dust
1.00 EA Filter Service After Brush Vacuuming
1.00 EA Pool Instruction After Completion Of Start Up
1.00 EA Label All Plumbing Pipes
1.00 EA Pool Cleaner Installed After Completion Of Plaster Brushing
1.00 EA Provide Instruction Manual
Total Pool Start Up 1,010.31
1950 Start Up Equipment
2.00 EA White Threaded Grate F / Equilizer
6.00 EA Gray 3/8" Eyeballs
1.00 EA 8' - 16' Telescoping Pole
1.00 EA Leaf Skimmer / Rake
1.00 EA 18" Bristle Brush
1.00 EA 4 - N - 1 Chlorine Test Kit
1.00 EA Stabilizer Test Kit
1.00 EA Floating Thermometer
6.00 EA Muriatic Acid
1.00 EA Jack's Magic Salt Water Treatment
Total Start Up Equipment 241.56
2050 Warranties
1.00 EA Lifetime Structural Warranty
1.00 EA Lifetime Warranty On " All " Jandy Neverlube Valves
1.00 EA 3 Year Warranty On All Pool Equipment
1.00 EA 3 Year Warranty On Pool Plumbing
1.00 EA 3 Year Warranty On Pool Electric
1.00 EA 3 Year Warranty On Tile & Coping
1.00 EA All Warranties Performed By Summit Pools
Total Warranties .00
Estimate Total... 41,130.31
Cody Pool Same depth, 30 ft lenght, 22 ft at widest width Estimated 17K gal
Pump Hayward 1.5 HP
Filter Hayward 60 sq ft DE
Polaris 280 with booster
Lights LED Colorlogic
Maintenance equip included
Start up chem included
Excavation
Steel 1/2 rebar tied on 10" cneters with four bar beam and addtional bars at all high stress areas if required
All plumbing with schedule 40 PVC
2 pool main drains anti vortex
4 adjustable return inlets
2 skimmers
High pressure Dry Gunit, water and quality controlled at job site.
Minimum floor and wall thickness 8" to 12"
Electric included, timers, water lights pool pump circuit breakers..
580 sq ft Sundek
26' decko drain
4-6 weeks construction time
Aquarite SWG
Input?
Here are the bids as well as I can translate them..
Summit Pool depth 3'6" to 7' 34' at widest length, 24 ft at widest width Estimated 22K gal
100 Plans, Engineering & Permit
1.00 EA Pool Design Plans
1.00 Permit - City Of Leander
Total Plans, Engineering & Permit 854.00
210 Summit Excavation
1.00 s.f. Rock Excavation to 6 ft. Depth 451' - 500'
1.00 ea Depth Over 6' - 8' / Rock Excavation
1.00 ea Excavate Plumbing Trunk Line
102.00 p.f. Pool Forming to 12"
1.00 EA Paint Pool Layout Before Excavation
Total Summit Excavation 5,715.70
300 Summit Steel
102.00 EA 1/2" Rebar @ 9" O. C. With 4 1/2" Alternates
1.00 FT 1/2" Continuous 4 Bar Box Beam
1.00 EA 20 Ft. Grounding Bars
1.00 EA Love Seats, Benches & Swim Outs
1.00 EA Tanning / Sport Ledge
20.00 EA 3 Ft. Deck Dowels
1.00 EA All Deck Dowels To Be Grounded With Deck Steel
1.00 EA All Rebar, 3/8" x 1/2" is 40 grade
1.00 EA All Steel Tied with # 16 Gauge Anealed Wire
Total Summit Steel 2,657.16
400 Summit Plumbing
1.00 EA Pool Plumbing Run Up To 40'
6.00 EA Pool Returns
1.00 SET Dual Skimmers Tied Together For Equal Suction
1.00 SET Dual Safety Drains
1.00 EA Set Equipment After Pool Deck
1.00 EA Manual Fill Line Connected To Nearest Hosebib
1.00 EA Paint Equipment Plumbing For U V Protection
1.00 EA All Plumbing 8" Deep For Freeze Protection
1.00 EA All Plumbing To Consist Of Sch 40 P V C Piping
1.00 EA Plumbing To Remain On 40 Psi To Insure No Leaks
1.00 EA Jandy Neverlube 3 Way Valves (lifetime Guarantee)
Total Summit Plumbing 1,964.20
600 Pool Equipment
1.00 EA 2 H P Stealth Pump Motor
1.00 EA C L 460 Sq. Ft. Cartridge Filter
1.00 EA All Jandy Pool Equipment comes with 3 Year Warranty
Total Pool Equipment 1,359.08
625 Pool Cleaners
1.00 Polaris 3/4 HP Booster Pump
1.00 EA Polaris 280 - Black Max
1.00 EA 1 Year Warranty on Pool Cleaning System
Total Pool Cleaners 808.86
650 Sanitizing Systems
1.00 EA Aqua Pure Salt System
10.00 EA 40lb Bags Of Salt
1.00 EA Connect Aqua Pure Salt System
1.00 EA Chlorinator Check Valve
Total Sanitizing Systems 1,328.58
800 Gunite
43.00 YDS Gunite Yardage For Pool
1.00 YDS Gunite Bench
2.00 YDS Gunite Set Of Steps
6.00 EA Form Board
1.00 EA Gunite To Consist Of A 6 Sack Mix / Mix on Site
1.00 EA Gunite To Be Shot Monolithically
1.00 EA All Walls & Floors To Be Minimum 8" - 12" Thick
1.00 EA Pool Bond Beam To Be 12" X 12"
Total Gunite 7,237.04
900 Summit Tile & Coping
110.00 FT Standard Tile
102.00 FT Flagstone Coping
1.00 EA Over Flow Line Installation
Total Summit Tile & Coping 3,114.66
1010 Electric Installation - Infinity
1.00 EA Standard 50 Amp Pool System to 50 ft.
1.00 EA Connect Aqua Pure Chlorine Generator
1.00 EA Connect Pool Light to GFCI
Total Electric Installation - Infinity 1,549.40
1050 Electrical Equipment / Components
1.00 EA #8 Ground Wire / Pool Bonding Per Electric Code
8.00 EA Brass Ground Clamps
1.00 EA Pool Colored Lighting - 300 Watt
1.00 EA Double Timeclock W / Freeze Gaurd
Total Electrical Equipment / Components 1,174.86
1200 Summit Pool Decks / Flat Work
399.00 EA Spray Deck
20.00 FT Deck - O - Drain
1.00 EA Load Of Road Base / Grading
125.00 EA 1/2" Colored Mastic
1.00 EA 3/8" Rebar @ 16" O. C.
1.00 EA All Deck Dowels To Grounded with Deck Steel
Total Summit Pool Decks / Flat Work 4,285.56
1300 Clean & Grade
1.00 EA Clean Up Pool Debris
1.00 EA Plaster Prep Interior Of Pool
1.00 EA Acid Wash Deck, Coping & Tile
1.00 EA Load of Chocolate / Sandy Loam
2.00 EA Fence Replacement Per Panel
1.00 EA Complete A Final Grade Of A Minimum 3:1 Ratio Slope
Total Clean & Grade 1,494.50
1700 Irrigation - New / Repairs
1.00 EA No Irrigation Repairs
1.00 EA Manual Watering By Customer Will Be Necessary
Total Irrigation - New / Repairs .00
1750 Landscape
1.00 EA No Landscape Or Sod Replacement
Total Landscape .00
1800 Plaster
1.00 EA Benches / Swim Outs
1.00 EA Tanning / Sport Benches
1,026.00 EA Pebble Sheen Aggregate Plaster
9.00 EA Gray Wall Fittings - 1 1/2"
2.00 EA Gray Anti Vortec Drain Covers
Total Plaster 6,334.85
1900 Pool Start Up
1.00 EA Standard Three Day Start Up
1.00 EA Brush Vacuum All Plaster Dust
1.00 EA Filter Service After Brush Vacuuming
1.00 EA Pool Instruction After Completion Of Start Up
1.00 EA Label All Plumbing Pipes
1.00 EA Pool Cleaner Installed After Completion Of Plaster Brushing
1.00 EA Provide Instruction Manual
Total Pool Start Up 1,010.31
1950 Start Up Equipment
2.00 EA White Threaded Grate F / Equilizer
6.00 EA Gray 3/8" Eyeballs
1.00 EA 8' - 16' Telescoping Pole
1.00 EA Leaf Skimmer / Rake
1.00 EA 18" Bristle Brush
1.00 EA 4 - N - 1 Chlorine Test Kit
1.00 EA Stabilizer Test Kit
1.00 EA Floating Thermometer
6.00 EA Muriatic Acid
1.00 EA Jack's Magic Salt Water Treatment
Total Start Up Equipment 241.56
2050 Warranties
1.00 EA Lifetime Structural Warranty
1.00 EA Lifetime Warranty On " All " Jandy Neverlube Valves
1.00 EA 3 Year Warranty On All Pool Equipment
1.00 EA 3 Year Warranty On Pool Plumbing
1.00 EA 3 Year Warranty On Pool Electric
1.00 EA 3 Year Warranty On Tile & Coping
1.00 EA All Warranties Performed By Summit Pools
Total Warranties .00
Estimate Total... 41,130.31
Cody Pool Same depth, 30 ft lenght, 22 ft at widest width Estimated 17K gal
Pump Hayward 1.5 HP
Filter Hayward 60 sq ft DE
Polaris 280 with booster
Lights LED Colorlogic
Maintenance equip included
Start up chem included
Excavation
Steel 1/2 rebar tied on 10" cneters with four bar beam and addtional bars at all high stress areas if required
All plumbing with schedule 40 PVC
2 pool main drains anti vortex
4 adjustable return inlets
2 skimmers
High pressure Dry Gunit, water and quality controlled at job site.
Minimum floor and wall thickness 8" to 12"
Electric included, timers, water lights pool pump circuit breakers..
580 sq ft Sundek
26' decko drain
4-6 weeks construction time
Aquarite SWG
Input?