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    SWG vs. chlorine -- any reason NOT to do it?

    Our ~20k Gal, in-ground, fiberglass pool is awesome. So awesome in fact that it gets a lot of use from our 19 grand-kids, on top of us (live-ins). During summer, we could have pool open (Opening automatic pool cover) for 6-10 hours a day (in full sun), and average 4-5 days per week. With all...
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    What goes wrong with Pentair Intellichlor SWG?

    Thinking about switching to SWG. Looking at fleaBay for a deal, I see some sell used units. What goes wrong on those things and should I only be looking at new ones? How long do they last? And lastly, any benefit from over sizing a unit? I've been looking at "Pentair 521105 Intellichlor IC60...
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    Any logic built into IntelliTouch?

    Does anyone know if there are any safety measures preventing pump from running if any of the following occurs: 1. Prevent daily routine from running if output pressure is too high (blockage in output) 2. Prevent pump running if after 30sec-1min the pump hasn't primed (blockage in input) 3...
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    Liquid Chlorine or Power Powder Plus?

    Guys, few years ago, we did calculation that based on Sam's Club's prices of ~$10/3gal pack and the fact that at that time, chlorine level was as 8.25%, it was less expensive to use it, vs. powder. I've been using that for the past 2 summers -- I was happy. This year, I noticed that I had to...
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    relay to valve actuator

    I'm toying with options to run the valve actuator thru the relay. Pentair IntelliTouch i5, i7 and even the i9, only support 3 valves on board. 1 of them is reserved for pump operation. Since I'm using IntelliFlow pump, that output is not used. With the expansion module, I got to use 3 more...
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    Upgrade i5+3s to i9+3s

    I have 521223 Pentair IntelliTouch i5+3S personality board on my 521213 Pentair IntelliTouch Load Center. I need to upgrade from i5 to i9. Can I just upgrade the PCB (520267 Intellitouch i9 + 3 Personality Pentair Auto PCB) and keep the same face ( 521230 OCP BEZEL, i5+3S) and the PCB that's...
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    Motor relay vs. contactor

    Guys, I have a cabinet with limited space and am trying to figure the small footprint device to energize a pool pump type motor. I'm confused about labeling on this motor. There are two stickers. Name plate and HP sticker above it. Based on part number on nameplate, this should be a 3/4Hp...
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    Looking for ideas on raised floor

    I have a pool equipmnet room that has dirt floor that always gets wet/muddy when draining filter housing, cleaning basket, etc. Initially I though about taking out few inches of dirt and replacing it with course rock to facilitate some water holding space/depth and let the gravity do it's...
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    Autelis pool automation suggestions

    Guys, I finally installed my IntelliTouch i5+3s system and am trying to figure how to connect and program my Autelis controller. My setup: Pool only, no spa, no solar. Using MasterTemp400 heater and IntelliFlow VS pump. Supply Valves: Main Drain, Skimmer, Cleaner (side port for suction type...
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    New FG pool balancing

    The pool has been completely drained and filled 12 days ago. PB added some chemicals 9 days ago on Friday and told me he would be back, but hasn't yet. Yesterday I did my first test and here are the results: 5/11/15 2:17 PM FC 1.0 CC 0.5 PH 7.5 TA 120 CH 75 CYA 5 - estimate as I could...
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    Is my heater/hr cost math correct?

    My last NM Gas bill last month was for $158.42 and I used 220 therms. If my math is correct, that brings my cost per therm to $0.72. Today, the gas company switched the meter and I ran my 400K Pentair heater for exactly an hour with nothing else in the house. I see that I used about 3200 Cubic...
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    No free shipping from TFTestkits.net ?

    Am I loosing it (OK, I know I am), or did I see that TFTestkits.net had free S/H for orders over certain amount? I could have sworn that I saw that orders over $80 IIRC shipped for free. I was trying to place an order last night and didn't see that option and my S/H was going to be $18. I got...
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    Can Pentair Intelliflow VS control panel be rotated 180°?

    In my installation, the control panel on the Pentair Intelliflow VS is pointing away from me. I'm looking in the manual, but do not see if this is something that can be rotated 180° or not. Their heater for example is made so that the top cover can be rotated in any direction...
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    Choosing correct heater size

    How do you determine the proper size heater for swimming pool? I was suppose to get the 350K BTU heater that's no longer available. Pentair now offers 300K or 400K units. The cost is only ~$65, but PB already delivered 300K unit. I want to get some data on proper sizing of my 16'x40' FB pool...
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    Does the Speedstir work with the TF100?

    Does it work with the 100 kit recommend here? Should I get extra tubes/containers, one per test? If so, should I also buy extra stirrers to match the qty of tubes? Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
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    New FG pool opening

    My PB owns the whole process of constructing, setting up and training us on operation of our pool. I have already bombarded him with a million questions about this, that & the other so I figured I'll ask here what I should expect from him and if I need to get involved during initial setup. He's...
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    Will this kit get me going?

    We're getting close to being done with construction of our 16'x40' fiberglass pool. As this is the first pool I've ever owned, I want to get off to a good start. Here is what I have in my shopping cart to take advantage of the $10 off TFP discount as well as free S/H: Item Name...
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    Intelliflo VF 011012 vs. VS 011012

    MY PB is supplying VS pump and when I brought up the VF, he didn't even know it existed. He talked to his rep and stated that he believes that I would be much happier with VS pump. He also told me that the VF is an older design, and that since the VS came out, Pentair sells mostly VS pumps. I...
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    Why is PB so against the SWG?

    I have a really, super nice PB. He's been in business for 40 years, and at least on BBB he doesn't have a single negative review. He's very polite, honest and fair with everything that we covered so far. He's installing Viking's Island Breeze II pool with all Pentair equipment: VS or VF pump...
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    IntelliTouch or EasyTouch?

    I have a PB do a Viking FG inground pool. PB is a great guy, but steers away from automation. He's allowing me to get a controller and integrate valves, etc. into the equipment he's otherwise providing. He's getting valve bodies that will accept the 263045 Pentair Compool Valve Actuator. I will...
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    Which to choose: SL2 or the Autelis

    I'm in the process of ordering either the IntelliTouch or EasyTouch controller. If I go with IntelliTouch, there is obviously no display, and I will need SL2 or the Autelis. Autelis appears to be little less expensive, and if I'm reading things correctly, it's more functional. I do NOT have any...
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    Fiberglass pool speaker options

    We're in the process of installing the Viking fiberglass pool. I asked PB about underwater speakers, but he said it can't be done. Does anyone know of any transducer (or other) type of speaker that can be placed against the fiberglass shell to produce under water sound? This isn't critical and...
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    Slide recommendation for new construction pool

    I've picked my contractor and signed the contract for a Viking, Island Breeze II in ground fiberglass pool. The contractor offered a slide, don't remember the model ATM, but we declined due to small size and price. He (PB) did offer to pre-plumb for water slide for $250, which I elected. Now...
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    Is there such a thing as OB for fiberglass pool?

    Hi, I'm new to the pool world and I'm in planning stages of our pool. I think I've decided that I'll be OK with fiberglass pool, due to ease of maintenance. I'm OK with it being rectangular due to the need for automated cover. Because I like to tackle building projects (houses, additions, never...
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    Pool decking options

    Hi, this is my first post. I've never owned a pool and we are in a planning/design phase for our first, inground pool. I'm leaning over to fiberglass option due to easy maintenance, but that's whole other topic. All pool builders include some decking as it's a code requirement. All that's...