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well, let's do some REALLY rough estimating: If your pool is 20x40, and exactly half is 4' deep, and half it 8' deep, then the volume of the 4' half is: 20x20x4=1600 cubic feet. The volume of the 8' deep half would be double that: 3200 cubic for a total of 4800 cubic feet. Since there are...

I know this is an old thread but it's a fun one! A week or two ago, during the middle of the day, in the middle of the week, I was finally balancing my under-eave-mounted outdoor speakers for the season when a neighbor came to complain about the volume! oops..... Mounting the speakers on the...

If your CYA level is between 50 and 100, keeping your FC at 10-14ppm isn't going to work. You need to keep your FC level between 15 and 20ppm, depending, and perhaps as high as 25. If your CYA is 50, then FC=15 is the shocking level. If it's between 60 and 90, then FC=20 is the shocking level...

Wow! What a story and challenge! First off: Don't waste another nickel on test strips. The only GOOD ones are Hach 6-way and LaMotte 6-way. The former cost $30 and the latter about $10-$15 for half as many. Plus they are VERY hard to read correctly. For that $$$ you could buy the W-Mart HTH...

To follow Duraleigh, Waterbear and Jason: It's clear that with SWGs it's VERY important to keep T/A at the low end of the range or lower (around 80ppm) or you'll face the constant rising pH problem. Plus, the higher CYA levels seem to also be critical to good SWG maintenance and performance...

Hoffmans: Just go back to the basics and you should be fine. It's not hard, it's just a balancing act between FC, pH, CYA and T/A--and mostly T/A isn't a real problem. When you have algae, you must keep your pH in range (low end, like 7.2, is better) and hammer the water 2 to 3 times per day...

Been a while since I posted here. I've struggled with welding panels myself. If the plastic is meltable, you can use a clean soldering iron to seal it. Find some place on the panel you can safely cut some plastic off of--there's usually SOME place you can find. Melt the panel and then melt...

Re: Sorry I'm late to this party, but I am very honored and humbled. :goodjob: I hate to tell you this but I kinda just tossed something up when I needed a name--using my first name and last initial is VERY unusual for me--I generally have much cleverer "handles" :P on other places. It's...

We actually had SNOW today in central New Jersey...SNOW!!! Yes, that means pool season is now, finally, irrevocably over....(here). :mrgreen:

"Rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated!" -- Mark Twain. Good News! PoolForum should be back up within 12 to 24 hours. :-D :o :lol: The domain did lapse but now should be renewed. Thanks always to Sean for allowing us to post messages and info here at TFP about PF. :goodjob:

Thanks. I wondered about the 70v setup. I do know that with audio there's things it's worth it to spend $$$ on, and things it's not. Plus, if you are willing to do the research, you can put together a VERY nice system for far less than you think. Many of the improvements of the last 20...

Niles Audio has a good reputation but I've never had a chance to listen to them. Russound is new to me. TechNomad has an big rep for big sound and extreme weather resistance. They use them at the New York Shakespeare Festival's outdoor theater, the Delacorte, and on many cruise ships. They...

Use enough bleach and pour it right on your liner and you, too, can bleach your pool! :hammer:

I'm new to this thread but I immediately saw what Waterbear saw--CYA measurements in a cloudy pool can't be trusted. It's the ONE time I'd use a test strip, as a double-check. However, the way you were having to use chemicals, the new water may cost less. CAVEAT: I'm not sure I read it...

Very nice! They are definitely competitive with the Boston Acoustic Voyager 6 series--handle more watts (175 vs 125) but you have to pay for the brackets, which come with the B/As. And the good brackets clearly shoot it past the $400 price point. Still, they look awesomely well-constructed. I...

Sheesh! If I drank that much beer I'd be TWICE the size of that kegerator! Plus my better half hates the smell of beer on my breath (Hint: crystalized ginger seems to clear it up...but you gotta like crystalized ginger.)

Hmmmmm....I'm wondering if the covers are becoming contaminated sitting off the pool, wet. Usually, if I'm really on top of things, the cover can be on for days at a time and all I have to do is vacuum after it comes off.

Yeah, PoolForum is still going. We were down yesterday but back up today. Chlorine rule of thumb method for B-B-B: 1 gallon of bleach adds its concentration to 10,000 gallons of water. So 1 gal of 6% adds 6ppm to 10,000 gallons. For you, 3/4 of a gallon of 6% will add 6ppm to your pool...

Ouch, Sue! I guess not. That's what a home inspector is supposed to catch--let you know the liner is doomed and give your attorney grist so you can make the seller give you an allowance for it...if they so choose.

The OP has a similar situation to me. I have a FantaSea and I went for the "forever" panels, an aluminum and plastic honeycomb 3/4" thick--instead of 3/4" marine plywood with plastic outer layers. I can FEEL the aluminum corrosion under the liner (in year 6 now) and know that when the liner...

Yeah, that's totally consistent with my experience, too.

JohnT: I've run into this myself as well--inevitably after the cover has been on for a VERY long time, like two weeks or more due to rain or vacation. I had a mild bloom several years ago when a rain system stalled over New Jersey for 10 weeks--the TV news started calling it "The Big Eddy"...

Ok! That works for me! I just couldn't find any on-line documentation to explain it, so I kept thinking that the PMs weren't being sent--In Outlook, if your eMail is in the "Outbox" it has not been sent. You then have to push the "Send and Receive" button and then, if it's been sent, it...

Yeah, the geometry gets more and more complex---my AG starts simple--16x40. But the deepend is a flat-bottomed hopper with sloping ramps on all 4 sides---but the ramp from the shallow section is longer, so figuring our the volume of the hopper was tricky. Yet it STILL was all just high school...

Frustratedpoolmom... Could you pass the popcorn??? :mrgreen: If you know the EXACT measurements of your pool, you can calculate quite precisely how many gallons you have. Since my pool was a customized version of a FantaSea, the deep end has to be calculated by both them and me. Therefore...

I appreciate that, Sean. Thanks. Been there, done that! :goodjob: Yup. There's a first-line approach, like B-B-B and then there are all kinds of alternatives to meet variant situations and needs. You can't help it--some people will use just bleach, some want a chlorinator, some want an...

Ah! That explains it! A very strange algorithm, but at least, if I understand how it works, I can adapt to it.

Sean, In this thread, you'll find this post from one moderator, Waterbear: It certainly made me feel like I wasn't supposed to talk about OTO dilution. and you'll find this one from another moderator, JasonLion: I have never argued that OTO dilution is anything more than a 2nd best...

Whenever I try to PM someone, it goes to my Outbox, and sits there...sometimes for a few minutes, sometimes for days. Usually, if I leave and come back an hour later it has been sent, but the last one stopped completely for 2 days and never moved to my "Sent" box. Why is that and how can one...

Thanks for clearing that up. We both agree the Pool Store approach fails and wastes money. I don't know how regularly it fails except when somebody didn't include P.O.P.P.--Pool Owner Patience and Persistence. In fact, the ONLY failures I know about are either not following the procedures...