I want to upgrade my SWCG - what work is needed?

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DaveTheAccountant

DaveTheAccountant

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29000
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Vinyl
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Jandy Truclear / Ei
I currently have a terribly undersized Jandy. I’m in middle Georgia and my pool gets about eight hours of solid sun per day. The RJ60 was recommended. Do I need a professional to install this? An earlier comment confirmed I have 230v electrical. Would any electrical work be needed or is this a basic install? I have a friend who is an electrician and is very handy with pretty much everything, so I have him in mind if a pool professional is not required.

Thanks in advance for your help!
 
DaveTheAccountant said:
I currently have a terribly undersized Jandy. I’m in middle Georgia and my pool gets about eight hours of solid sun per day. The RJ60 was recommended. Do I need a professional to install this? An earlier comment confirmed I have 230v electrical. Would any electrical work be needed or is this a basic install? I have a friend who is an electrician and is very handy with pretty much everything, so I have him in mind if a pool professional is not required.

Thanks in advance for your help!
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If you can connect two hot wires and a ground wire without electrocuting yourself, it’s pretty easy.
 
The CP control box replaces the Jandy one, and like Jandy can be run on either 120 or 240 volts. So a simple connection swap with the existing wiring.

It is critical that the SWCG not be powered unless the pool pump is running. The Jandy can connect to a Jandy pump, but since you don't have that pump, how are you currently set up to make sure it doesn't run when the pump isn't pumping? Depending, you may be able to do it the exact same way, or you may have to come up with an alternative. We can advise on that. In any event, it will be something any electrician would find to be very easy.

As far as the rest of the install - it is just cutting and gluing in pipe, so only a modest amount of DIY skills for that.
 
While you're at it you may want to think about upgrading/ changing the pump motor to something more efficient and you wouldn't need to touch the wet end. Neptune like this are real good but depending on your pump you may need to also change the impeller.
 
On the running of the SWCG one switch powers both units. Unfortunately I don’t know what else to add that might be helpful.

On the VS motor, I’ve been wanting to do that but thought I might do the SWCG this summer and motor next summer.
 
OK, so it sounds like you are either manually flipping the switch that runs both the pump and the Jandy SWCG when you want them to run, or there is a timer that does that on a repeating schedule. As long as that is the only way to turn on the Jandy (the pump has to be on also), then the Circupool can be wired in the same, and work the same way.
Some installs have the two items set up to get power separately, so it is important to have a safety that makes sure the SWCG can't run if the pump isn't running. Or, in some the motor itself can be programmed to turn on and off periodically - in which case a way to make sure the SWCG also is off at the same time is needed. But it sounds like you don't have that complication.

Things seem to be in good order, and will be a fast and easy install.
 
Thanks - you are correct about the off and on. There’s a manual switch with a spinning timer that can also handle it. Happy to hear this should be relatively smooth.
 
I had a hayward aqua trol rj with T 5 cell. It was recommended with my pool installer. But way under sized. With suggestions from this forum. I was able to order the CP 45 for my system. I was able to add the flow switch and swap out the hayward box for the CP box all by myself. I thought i had 230volt but contacted customer service and they checked my settings and helped me switch to my actual 110v and am up and running great. Customer service is awesome and fast to reply they are in Texas. So don't hesitate to contact them. Just make sure you turn of main power to the pool system.
 
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To wrap up this thread - which would you choose if only upgrading one? Pump/motor or cell? Even with 24 hour run time I’d need to supplement with liquid periodically on the current cell.
 

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What is the exact model number of the superpump?

I'd get the cell.

And for about $500, I'd upgrade your existing pump with a V-Green EVO or Nidec Neptune variable speed motor. A GO KIT 3 will have the needed shaft seal, O ring, gaskets, etc.

Or get a 3hp Calimar for about $500.
 
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Hands down the new cell - keeping the current means an on-going risk of going green, and therefore the cost and pain of doing SLAM's. You'll have enough capacity to manage your energy cost with pump run times, even if not the big improvement a new pump would bring.

As you contemplate a future pump update, find out more about swapping just the motor part of the pump. Might be a substantial cost savings. Century V-green, and likely others, can convert yours into a variable speed, with just replacing the motor. BUT - you will need to do a bit of planning and cost estimating to see what other updates may be needed to get it to play well with the new SWCG. I like my setup, but there may be more cost effective solutions. Or others with more experience may advise differently, depending on your exact equipment.
 
I say the pump as now it would run more efficiently and can/should run 24/7 so then even at .92 lbs/day at 80% it'll still kick out 3ppm daily. If needed you can up the % and if it cut its life down that's fine as next year you'll do the cell system upgrade.
 
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What is the exact model number of the superpump?

I'd get the cell.

And for about $500, I'd upgrade your existing pump with a V-Green EVO or Nidec Neptune variable speed motor. A GO KIT 3 will have the needed shaft seal, O ring, gaskets, etc.

Or get a 3hp Calimar for about $500.
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That is the motor. There should be a model number on the pump...

Given that motor, I'd assume you have SP2607X102S. See if you can find it.
 
This advice stands:

for about $650 total, you can upgrade your existing pump with a V-Green EVO EVC165, upgrade the impeller, and get a GO KIT 3 which will will have the needed shaft seal, O ring, gaskets, etc.

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Or get a 3hp Calimar for about $500.
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A typical 1 HP pump has a power consumption of 750-100 Killowatts per hour (KWH). At .15$/KWH, that is about $80 per month at 750 and $110 at 1000 (running 24 hours).
A typical 3hp VSP running at 1400rpm, the consumption is about 250W. At .15$/KWH, that is about $27per month (running 24 hours).
That is a monthly savings of $50-80 per month, or 6-10 month payback.

The value of running pump slow is electricity savings. The value of running SWG 24x7 is stable FC levels.

Get the cell, buy the calimar and don't look back.
 
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The value of running pump slow is electricity savings.
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The value of running SWG 24x7 is stable FC levels.
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The value of rarely having to lift a finger to fiddle with either of those......... is priceless.

Never in 13 years have I wondered if I was skimming or filtering enough. Both were well covered because I was lazy and wanted to fiddle less with the pool. My FC is topped off around the clock. Between the 3, it doesn't matter what, happens when. The pool is ready for it.
 
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