Screw in bead liner receivers?

[Sybrash]

We installed our own pool in 2013 other than the liner which we had professionally installed. It's time to replace it and so we called the same guy since he did a great job and at a fair price the first time around. We now have a deck built all the way around the pool and so he suggested a beaded liner. However, the receivers he suggested don't go over the top of the pool edge, they screw in to the pool wall just below the top. I want to do a little more research on this but I've searched and searched and can't even find a screw-in receiver. This guy started a large pool company in CenTex years ago but sold it to his nephew and now just does installs - mainly in-ground - so I trust him, but would still like to read up on it. Has anyone ever heard of this? Is there a special term for it? Do you know where I can find info on it?

Also, has anyone had a negative experience with beaded liners? I wish I would have known about them before we surrounded our pool with a deck.

 

[phonedave]

We installed our own pool in 2013 other than the liner which we had professionally installed. It's time to replace it and so we called the same guy since he did a great job and at a fair price the first time around. We now have a deck built all the way around the pool and so he suggested a beaded liner. However, the receivers he suggested don't go over the top of the pool edge, they screw in to the pool wall just below the top. I want to do a little more research on this but I've searched and searched and can't even find a screw-in receiver. This guy started a large pool company in CenTex years ago but sold it to his nephew and now just does installs - mainly in-ground - so I trust him, but would still like to read up on it. Has anyone ever heard of this? Is there a special term for it? Do you know where I can find info on it?

Also, has anyone had a negative experience with beaded liners? I wish I would have known about them before we surrounded our pool with a deck.

Usually for in ground pools

Vinyl Liner Track | Side Mount | Aluminum | SMW-S08X15

www.propools.com

 

[Sybrash]

Usually for in ground pools

Vinyl Liner Track | Side Mount | Aluminum | SMW-S08X15

www.propools.com

I thought that might be the case, but I couldn't find anything. Thanks for the link! Do you know of any reason why I shouldn't use it for an AGP? If we don't, we'll have to take up a bunch of deck boards. But, if that's what we have to do, then that's what we'll do. It is what it is.

 

[wireform]

It may work well but the only part that differentiates the two pools is that an AGP has a thin sheet metal wall and there's not much thickness for the self tapping screw to hold onto. It may work if they use a nut and bolt every so often.

 

[Mdragger88]

Interesting
I would ask him exactly what product he uses.
I have the concern that @wireform mentions. Also that it would fit the bead pattern of an above ground liner
These don’t quite look the same

I thought this article would help but now I’m more confused

What Are the Different Vinyl Liner Bead Types for Swimming Pools

When buying a new vinyl liner for your swimming pool, the original liner bead type could play a huge role in what liner options you have.

blog.royalswimmingpools.com

 

[Newdude]

I don't see it bending to fit the curvature of the wall.

Freeform vinyl pools have a specific bendable track to make the curves and it's top mount not side mount

Bendable Liner Track

The Z Poolform Bendable Liner Track is used to mount the Bendable Poolform on a free form vinyl liner pool as well as hold your pool liner. This product is meant as a replacement to the HZ Track or HM-1 liner tracks. The Z Poolform Liner Track can be fastened to the pool wall with the use of our...

concretecountertopsolutions.com

 

[Sybrash]

It may work well but the only part that differentiates the two pools is that an AGP has a thin sheet metal wall and there's not much thickness for the self tapping screw to hold onto. It may work if they use a nut and bolt every so often.

I wondered about that myself which is why I want to research it more. Another concern I have is the metal screws through the metal pool wall and if this could cause rust. I also considered the fact that the reason I couldn't find any information about using this track for an AGP is because it isn't recommended. There's always the possibility that it's before it's time but.... I think I'll stick to the tried and true.

 

[Sybrash]

Interesting
I would ask him exactly what product he uses.
I have the concern that @wireform mentions. Also that it would fit the bead pattern of an above ground liner
These don’t quite look the same
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I thought this article would help but now I’m more confused

What Are the Different Vinyl Liner Bead Types for Swimming Pools

When buying a new vinyl liner for your swimming pool, the original liner bead type could play a huge role in what liner options you have.

blog.royalswimmingpools.com

Haha. I can't tell you how many hours I've spent researching all this. Every time you think you have the answer, something else points you in a new direction. Oh, and I was going to clarify with him if this track could be used with any beaded liner or just the liners (in-ground) that he was suggesting. (Not pushing, but offering up as an option.)

 

[Sybrash]

Well, you've all given me some things to consider. I appreciate your input!

 

[Mdragger88]

Please follow up with what he says- I am in the same boat as you - i have an overlap & will need to remove deck boards to replace my liner.

 

[phonedave]

I see no benefits to using an in ground bead receiver in an above ground pool, and I see LOTS of downside.

 

[Sybrash]

I see no benefits to using an in ground bead receiver in an above ground pool, and I see LOTS of downside.

The benefit would be that we would not have to remove any boards to install the receiver. I agree there are likely some downsides. What are your LOTS of downsides?