Pool fences and or alarms

[monsterman]

Hello all, I have a 2-year-old grandson that will be finally using our pool very soon. I am in search of a decent pool arm and fence. I have a 15 ' x 24' above-ground pool with outside steps to get in and a cake step inside to climb down into the pool (both connected with railings.)
I was told to get the PoolEye Alarm for the pool but where and how do I look for a fence> Who install it? Any advice? My wife was looking for a nylon type of fence that encircles the whole pool and gets dug into the garden area around the perimeteriCloud of the whole pool. Not sure if you can open the link- but that comes from my iCloud pics- and shows the steps on the outside of the pool and most of the pool itself and the little area of white rocks and the soft ground around the direct perimeter of the outside of the pool. That is where my wife wants the fence.

 

[monsterman]

Hello all, I have a 2-year-old grandson that will be finally using our pool very soon. I am in search of a decent pool arm and fence. I have a 15 ' x 24' above-ground pool with outside steps to get in and a cake step inside to climb down into the pool (both connected with railings.)
I was told to get the PoolEye Alarm for the pool but where and how do I look for a fence> Who install it? Any advice? My wife was looking for a nylon type of fence that encircles the whole pool and gets dug into the garden area around the perimeteriCloud of the whole pool. Not sure if you can open the link- but that comes from my iCloud pics- and shows the steps on the outside of the pool and most of the pool itself and the little area of white rocks and the soft ground around the direct perimeter of the outside of the pool. That is where my wife wants the fence.

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• monsterman
• May 31, 2020

 

[VinnyinNJ]

They use to sell gates to go around the pool ladder. i found this: Sentry Safety Pool Fence Premium Guard Above Ground Standard Pool Fence Gate Including Magna-Latch AGPF-GateML - The Home Depot All ladders/steps now need to have a self closing self locking gate on the ladder or around the ladder. They also sell fencing that attaches to the pool uprights. https://intheswim.com/p/gate-for-ab...GNOW&msclkid=d042a34fe9a6160e7fa4c73d6435c218

Maybe put up a standard non climbable gate around the step and look into the pool fencing. Personally I prefer to stop a toddler from going in vs an alarm that says the toddler is in.

 

[Newdude]

He'll be climbing by the end if the summer if he isn't already, and your pool is half as high as a traditional above ground but just as deep. It's beautiful, but that's a little kid nightmare right there.

You need a fence across the front, or on the top rail of the pool. A Katch a Kid fence or similar would be easily removable when you're not babysitting.

 

[Mdragger88]

Also get a simple door alarm to alert you if anyone goes out the door into the pool area. I have these on my doors & the little non keypad ones on my windows. They are loud- you can also set them to chime, the batteries last for like ever. They sell combo sets.

it looks like you already have a backyard fence, be sure it has a self closing, self latching gate that cannot be unlatched by a small child (usually the latch needs to be at least 4ft off the ground) to prevent accidental entry to the backyard.
You also want to make sure you don’t have anything around the pool that he can use to climb over the wall of the pool.
The water alarms can be finicky but they are good added layer. They also make a wearable alarm.
You basically want multiple layers incase 1 fails another will hopefully prevail- a mix of alarms & physical barriers.
I always remove all floats etc. from the pool when we leave the area for a couple reasons- less enticing & it allows me to clearly see the whole pool at a glance incase there was a child or anything in there that shouldn’t be it would be obvious.
I have a magna latch on my deck gate. I highly recommend them if installed properly at the right height. Mine has a lifetime warranty. It requires 2 handed operation. It annoys some people but I don’t care. It has a key so I can lock it.
Great job thinking about safety for your grands

 

[monsterman]

Also get a simple door alarm to alert you if anyone goes out the door into the pool area. I have these on my doors & the little non keypad ones on my windows. They are loud- you can also set them to chime, the batteries last for like ever. They sell combo sets.
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it looks like you already have a backyard fence, be sure it has a self closing, self latching gate that cannot be unlatched by a small child (usually the latch needs to be at least 4ft off the ground) to prevent accidental entry to the backyard.
You also want to make sure you don’t have anything around the pool that he can use to climb over the wall of the pool.
The water alarms can be finicky but they are good added layer. They also make a wearable alarm.
You basically want multiple layers incase 1 fails another will hopefully prevail- a mix of alarms & physical barriers.
I always remove all floats etc. from the pool when we leave the area for a couple reasons- less enticing & it allows me to clearly see the whole pool at a glance incase there was a child or anything in there that shouldn’t be it would be obvious.
I have a magna latch on my deck gate. I highly recommend them if installed properly at the right height. Mine has a lifetime warranty. It requires 2 handed operation. It annoys some people but I don’t care. It has a key so I can lock it.
Great job thinking about safety for your grands

Someone recommended the POOLEYE alarm PE12- but I do not see it anywhere- I believe it is now PE14- I want something efficient yet reliable and very easy to install. But How about the PE23- loos like it really easy to install on an above-ground pool- a little more expensive- but do you have any ideas?

 

[BDY]

Can also set up a motion camera on the pool too - eg Ring, Arlo, Nest etc. set right and anyone walking to the pool sets off the notification

What about safety cover?

 

[Dirk]

Not only don't go this "safety ladder" route, but whatever you think he can or can't do, think again. Watch the whole video, it gets worse.

When mine were little, I never let them in the backyard alone. Not once. Not ever. I still don't. I never safeguarded my pool in any way, because nothing is infallible and I didn't want to create for myself a false sense of security. I treated it as the ongoing 24/7 threat it is.

Instead of locking down the pool itself, I locked all the doors to the backyard from the inside of the house, in as "kid proof" a manner as I could devise. And then I gave them swimming lessons as early as possible (even infants can be taught to swim and get to the side of a pool).

 

[Dirk]

I like to tell this cautionary tale, because even older, avid swimmers cannot be left alone in a backyard with a pool.

I was on guard at my pool as usual, as my guests were wrapping up a great swim day. Parents were all inside, kids were all dried off and changed out of swim suits and getting ready to leave. Two boys, both excellent swimmers, both fully dressed, were horsing around by the pool. Little brother had taken one too many shots from older brother that day, I guess, and just shoved him into the pool, fully clothed, shoes and all. I watched for just a second, and that's all it took to realize the kid was going down. He was 12 or so at the time, and could swim like a fish, but between the shoes and the long pants, he just could not keep his head above water. And his brother did nothing but watch. So I fished him out and was actually sort'a grateful to his nasty brother for the lesson I learned that day.

There is just no way to safeguard a pool that is better than 100% undistracted supervision. Even parents cannot be trusted to watch their own kids (especially if they own a cell phone). A two-brother "buddy system" is even worse. Nope, as the pool owner, it's on you, and only you. You're the only one you're going to be able to trust: not another person, not a fence, not a net, not a gizmo (do NOT trust a life to a device with a battery, or one that relies on Wi-Fi, no way). You're a lifeguard now, on full-time duty whenever any kids are at your house.

That's my take on pool safety, anyway.

I'm not specifically recommending you do nothing to lock down your pool, go nuts if you want to. I'm only saying you can never rely on any of it, at all.

 

[BDY]

These unobtrusive guys worked well for us - mounted at adult or teen height out of reach of toddlers but not bulky and standing out. Come in different colors - can usually find some version of it at big box atore

https://a.co/d/ckwO3Iy