*Pics* New PB: 20x40 IG Gunite, 7x7 spa/7x7 Shamu shelf

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Feb 7, 2012
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San Jose, CA
Hi Everyone! We finished our house build a few months ago, and are interested in building a 20x40 rectangular IG pool in our backyard (with a 7x7 spa). We've interviewed at least 6 pool guys (5 gunite, 1 vynil liner), and liked this guy the best by far. Also, as we were interviewing landscapers, they asked if we had considered this company, because they liked working with them. We were also surprised that their bid came in fairly competitively. Here's the bid: (I think we're just going to add the "Universal Finest Finish" (+$4500) and get a $3500 discount for keeping the dirt onsite for grading, so net +$1000).

Pool Specifications: 120 Lnft 800 Sqft; Width 20 ft Length 40 ft
Spa Specifications: 28 Lnft; 49 Sqft;

Plans,Permits and Engineering:
<Company> Pools will provide Pool Plans
<Company> Pools will provide engineering
<Company> Pools will pay permit costs
All engineering inspections will be paid by others

Excavation:
3.5 ft shallow end depth
8 ft deep end depth
1 hours of grading
1 hours of cleanup
1 trash loads
120 Lnft of tractor dirt walk
<Company> Pools will pay all dump fees

Steel:
Shallow end vertical steel #3 @ 12
Deep end vertical steel #3@4
2 spa walls #3 @ 12
1 Inside seat #3@12 vertical rebar

Rough Plumbing and Electric:
30 ft of 3 inch pool suction line
135 ft of 3 inch pool return line
40 ft of 1.5 inch pool sweep line
20 ft of 2 inch pool main drain line
65 ft of 3 inch Spa jet suction line
65 ft of 2.5 inch spa jet return line
65 ft of 2.5 inch Spa circ suction line
93 ft of 2.5 inch Spa circ return line
65 ft of 2 inch Spa air line
20 ft of 2 inch cover chase line
40 ft of 1.5 inch ozone line
50 ft of 0.75 inch pool fill line
Pentair autofill
1- Pac Fab Bermuda Skimmers
Brass anti siphon valve
8 Waterways deluxe spa jets
Looped spa plumbing

Gunite:
All gunite will be a minimum 2500 psi
All steel will be covered a minimum of 3"
Bond beam 12 inches thick
Walls 6 inches thick
Floor will be 6 inches thick
Shallow end cove thickness 6 inches
Deep end cove thickness 10.5 inches
Install 1 inch x 3 inch notch in bond beam for cover inwall track receptor
Install 12 inch cover box beam
Install 32 inch opening on drive side and 12 inch opening on non drive side

Electrical:
150 Lnft of main electrical line with 3- #8 wires and a ground
20 Lnft of 3/4 inch electrical line from equipment pad to light junction box
80 Lnft of 1inch electrical line from light junction box to pool and spa lights
75 Lnft of 3/4 inch pool cover switch electrical line
Wire and install pool cover switch
65 Lnft of spa super switch electrical line
100 Lnft of indoor control electrical line
Wire and install 3 - Pool pumps
Wire and install hydraulic cover pump
Wire and install heater
Wire and Install Pentair intellitouch control system
Wire and install indoor control unit
Install Pentair outdoor load center with circuit breakers
Wire and install pool cover switch
Bond all electrical equipment with #8 bare copper wire
Wire and install pool lights with #8 insulated ground and potting compound
Wire and install spa light with #8 insulated ground and potting compound
Install gfci lighting circuit

GAS:
150 Ft of 1.5 inch gas line with mimimum burial depth of 18 inches
2 Gas tie ins with gas shut off at heater
Mimimum 400000 Btu rated gas line
#18 insulated copper tracer wire the length of gas line
Gas line will be pressure tested at 15psi
Tie in main gas line to gas meter and install gas shutoff valve at pool heater

EQUIPMENT:
1Pentair intelliflow variable 4x 160 variable speed pump
1 Pentair 2 hp whisper flow spa jet pump
1Pentair clean and clear plus 520 sqft cartridge filter
1Pentair 400,000 btu master temp heater
1Pentair letro booster pump
1Pentair letro platnum pool cleaner
1Pentair intelli touch i-9 control system
1Pentair intellitouch indoor control
1Pentair outdoor load center with breaker sub panel
1Pentair IS 4 spa side remote
1Rainbow chlorine feeder
2Pentair sam light with 50' cord
1Pentair sal light with 50' cord

TILE AND COPING:
120 Lnft of 6 inch pool waterline tile
28 Lnft of 6 inch spa waterline tile
14 Lnft of tile on spa damm wall cap
120 Lnft of precast coping (Labor only)
120 Lnft of 2.75 inch thick Kaytee precast pool coping (material only)

POOL COVER:
Install Aquamatic Cover Systems hydraulic pool cover
20 Lnft of hydraulic hose
Install custom lid system
11 -12 inch stainless steel brackets

PLASTER FINISH:
Grey Plaster Finish

Pool and Spa Total 82,900.00

Add Options:
Universal finest finish Plaster 4,200.00
Endless Pools swim jet system 9,600.00
Clearwater Tech 15gram an hour ozone system 10,350.00
 
Re: New pool build in San Jose, CA (with bid)

Also trying to decide between a sport-pool and a standard 8-ft deep end. My wife and I both really like diving boards, and also think people will be diving in anyways, so it'd be safer to actually have a deep end. OTOH, that's a lotta extra water to heat!
 
Re: New pool build in San Jose, CA (with bid)

An ozone system is not needed with an outdoor pool. The sun does that job for free. That should save you $10K :goodjob:
 
Re: New pool build in San Jose, CA (with bid)

Same size pool for us almost under construction and we went diving board pool. Kids will dive, maybe not yours, but some will. Another option is an 8' pool with no board but an identified "dive zone". If I were building a diving board pool, it would be 8 1/2 or 9', not 8'. 8 is the minimum but why not get a bit of leeway, peace of mind, safety margin, even if only to help you sleep better while your teenage kids (now or in the future) are having a late night swim with their friends. Oh, I am building a pool. Guess that was my reasoning then.
 
Re: New pool build in San Jose, CA (with bid)

werd98 said:
Good point! I'll have to ask how much more expensive 8.5' is than 8'.
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Quite honestly, for what you're spending it shouldn't cost a dime more. Our vinyl pool was originally spec'd for 3.5' and 6' respectively. We decided a day or 2 before the dig that we wanted the depth increased to 4' and 7' and our PB made it happen with no fuss. It's 10 more minutes behind the bobcat/backloader, a few extra square feet of vinyl, and 2-3 more bags of vermiculite. This is a rounding error that most PBs should be prepared to eat. Be warry of the PB that tries to nickle and dime you.
 

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Thanks for the feedback! Now for something a bit controversial, I'm sure :)

The current plan is to put all equipment about 4-5ft below water/ground level, and then cover it with a removable grate (so that it can breath). Our PB has been excellent, and he doesn't see a problem with this. Thoughts?
 

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